Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #17 *ARREST*

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  1. cybervampira

    cybervampira Well-Known Member

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    Missing woman Libby Squire | Humberside Police

    Can you help find missing Libby Squire (21) last seen getting into a taxi outside Welly club in Hull at around 11pm last night?

    She is 5ft 7ins tall with shoulder length brown hair and was wearing a black long sleeved top, leather jacket and black denim skirt with lace.

    If you have seen her please call 101 quoting log 29 of 01/02/19.

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    Humberside Police

    Woman, 21, missing after last being seen getting into taxi on night out

    Huge search for missing Libby Squire continues

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    Just bringing this forward from thread #2

    Timeline:

    11:18pm Libby turned away from Welly,
    11:22pm Libby put in taxi
    11:29 Taxi drops her near home on Wellesley Av. Neighbours saw her stumbling in street.
    11:40 - 11:45 caught on CCTV on bench. Around this time grey beard man stopped to offer assistance, she declined, police have cleared him
    11:49ish PR? car arrives on Haworth Street (per ITV CCTV)
    12:04-12:06 ish man smoking (CCTV)
    12:08 passenger door opens and someone/something is on passenger seat
    (CCTV)
    12:09 car drives away (CCTV)

    12:09 police say Libby had left the bench by now
    12:19 the same car (tbc) seen Newland Av (per Sun CCTV)
    12:15-12:30ish dark and eerie screams coming from park for 15 minutes
    12:30ish man seen running from park
    12:30ish scream and banging gate heard from Heathcote St near Libbys house.
     
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    I can't help but suspect that Humberside police didn't take seriously enough the crimes that PR's victims reported and regarded them as relatively minor offences, since there was no actual physical harm done and nothing of great value stolen. I was listening to a police officer talking on LBC recently who said that because of under-funding and reduced resources, only 'high value' crimes are investigated (i.e. those which involve violence and where there's strong enough evidence to secure a conviction). It's so frightening and unjust to realise that in cases like Libby's, it's often only after someone has been murdered that the person responsible is dealt with, even in the face of obvious sinister warning signs and red flags.
     
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    So sad but I agree. Lack of resources and not taking such crimes seriously. I guess it's lucky they gathered forensics others CPS probably wouldn't have taken it to trial.

    Hindsight is a wonderful thing but if they'd just looked at the tiny area he operated in and made his description public locally things might be different. If an efit had been put up in shops, cafes and pubs in Newlands Avenue, if nowhere else, his neighbours and local shopkeepers probably even his wife might have pointed LE straight to him.

    Even just his image seeping into student consciousness from an efits everywhere might have made a difference that night. Made Libby cautious and able to raise an alarm before he could take her.

    It's so sad.
     
  8. Via Marple

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    I found some discussion in an article on the Golden State Killer in California, which may provide insight into PR's case. The article is part of a well researched series by Los Angeles Times.

    The motivation is sexual gratification. The thrill is in the creeping. It can end there, but experts say the risk-taking that excites a paraphiliac can lead to violence.

    A deep body of forensic research documents the links between fetish burglary and sexual murder, and, at the far end of the nightmarish spectrum, erotophonophilia. Lust murder.

    The Man in the Window: First the burglaries; then the dogs started dying (Part Two)

    And GSK's thread:
    CA - CA - East Area Rapist/Golden State Killer *ARREST* #4
     
  9. Cherwell

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    Same with road safety. People risk their lives in highly dangerous places every day, but as long as nobody is killed no improvements are made.
     
  10. Newthoughts

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    That's an eye opener. Especially 8 out of 10 women raped and murdered at home were killed by a sexual burglar!

    PR's judge made it very clear he thought he was dangerous and that his motivation was sexual gratification.

    It's still my opinion that if Libby hadn't been there that night PR would eventually have attacked someone in their home. JMO tho.

    Because of his guilty plea we really only heard a fraction of the evidence and only that gathered at the crime scene. Initially LE had asked for the means to show CCTV. It would be interesting to see what that showed. Given an insight perhaps into where he drove and where he parked.
     
  11. bluesntwos

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    I wouldnt say its difficult to run up the incline it is quite shallow but could be tricky underfoot as it was freezing, A lot of the vegetaion has been cut back and i have no knowledge of what the vegetaion was like on that night so could have been difficult to get through it to access the river bank, as for screams heard, why are the heathcote screams being dismissed, surely they are as valid to the case as the park screams. who can say both sets of screams wasnt libby. who can say there hasnt been a major error made by LE when they searched parts of heathcote/ wellesley. the banging of the garden gate and more screams. im really not sure PR is the only one involved here.
     
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    I think judging by the amount of time and days the police spent in the playing fields and asking for the people on the CCTV they knew for certain Libby had been in there. How they knew we don’t know.
     
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    I suppose the reason the park screams are taken more seriously is because they were accompanied by a man running out of the park but I agree any screams could be relevant and of course as already stated above the amount of time the police spent at the park
     
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    I'm in agreement. I don't think he is the only one involved. It's the only thing I can think of holding up a charge.
     
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    The website wasnt working last night. So no one yet has posted with the latest news - PR has now been arrested again and is being questioned re LS’s death. Let’s hope
    For charge this time. I think the police were waiting for the outcome of the other trial.
     
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    Yes. Arrested on suspicion of murder - not just abduction. Press reports are careful not to refer to recent convictions.
     
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    National newspapers are they only ones speculating on his name, local news have not named him yet. I think it’s clearly obvious who the 25 year old is. But police won’t want names being passed around at the moment because of damage it can do to the case.
     

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