Well this is new info for me actually. This quote.
The one that Stine recalled to Kaempfer.
I always understood it that the parent who overheard the convo questioned Burke again about it and he wouldn't say anything else or repeat it. I could have been wrong and willing to admit it.
It's odd that Stine said this considering later her family and the Ramsey's became so super close replacing the White's basically in the Ramsey's life.
Okay a few questions regarding this. Hopefully you can answer them for me! lol
So Doug and Burke were overheard by Stine correct? And she told Kaempfer about it? Was Anthony, Kaempfer's son, also in the room when the boys were discussing it?
Also, considering the fact that JR and PR both stated they never discussed the case with Burke and what happened to JonBenet except for the fact she was in heaven... and he was at another home when her body was discovered..... and I'm sure the ME hadn't released the AR yet.... how did Burke have knowledge of her manner of death?
Anthony's description is very interesting I agree!!!
Now we CAN theorize that Burke maybe overheard or secretly listened to adults discussing how her body was found. But if he did this then it would be just as easy to say he was eavesdropping during the morning of the kidnapping too. That would be normal kid behavior being nosy and curious. Yet they adamantly deny he was doing any such thing. That he was 'asleep' in his bed the whole time. Even a kid (Anthony) picked up on the fact that Burke knew more than he should. This also tells me that his parents maybe THOUGHT they had coached him enough not to mention anything that occurred that night and morning and to say he was asleep through it all, but Burke couldn't help himself in telling others. I bet money if you asked his friends that were around him during that time, now what they observed and heard from him, they would tell you he was bragging about it in a way. This is what usually gets criminals caught. They HAVE to tell people what they did. They can't fight the urge. I'd be interested to hear what his friends back then have to say about it now. THOSE would be interesting interviews.
Thank you so much for the quote!!! Learning more every single day! :tyou:
You're welcome, glad I could help!
About your questions:
1. I don't have any info besides what I posted but nothing to indicate Anthony was with them at the time. I would love to read the original police report Kolar got that from to get more context.
2. I agree it would be very interesting to have his old playmates interviewed, I wonder if any of them were contacted by the task force in 2010 or CBS more recently. As to Burke knowing about the strangulation, I had the same thought. If he didn't hear it from his parents, then where? The police didn't want to release info about the mode of death in the early reports and this was only 2 days after anyone knew she was strangled. Hinky.
However, here's a theory:
A) the first report in the Daily Camera on the 27th quoted Mason saying she was not shot or stabbed but no further info.
B) but on the 28th the DC refers to her as having been strangled, which is the first media mention of that fact I'm aware of - but who knows, it could have leaked even earlier on live news.
C) that convo happened after a schoolwide counseling session on the 28th. I doubt Burke attended but DS probably did since Kolar thought it was relevant to the context. If that info was in the morning paper (not sure that it was) it's possible classmates would have gleaned that info from their parents in some way, discussed it at school, and then DS relayed the info to Burke. It's impossible to know for sure.
Finally, yeah, it is curious that Patsy's Pitbull shared her concerns about that exchange with someone else. This was before the Ramseys were living with the Stines so I wonder if this was before they became oddly close. IF BDI, I could see SS being brought into the fold if she discovered too much (say from more convos between BR and DS), and I could see her going along to protect Burke if she thought it was a childish accident. If JDI or PDI I'm less inclined to think she'd know the truth and still support them but maybe she would, she really seemed devoted to Patsy. SS's over the top actions in defense of the Ramseys make me think she must know SOMETHING.