What do Burke's interviews tell us?

Discussion in 'JonBenet Ramsey' started by eileenhawkeye, Jul 14, 2011.

  1. UKGuy

    UKGuy Well-Known Member

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    dodie20,
    We know Burke knows what happened that night. He was in the house, he saw JonBenet snacking pineapple. But the Ramsey timeline suggests she was already dead. Even if Burke did not know the details at age 9, well guess what, at his current age, he obviously does. And must know both his parents were involved. Anyone ever thought how John has since explained to Burke why he was dumped at the Whites, yet John and Patsy had plans to fly out of Colorado. Did Burke know he was part of that flight plan, or does he think, he was to be abandoned alike JonBenet?

    You could infer Burke knew very little since he was removed from John and Patsy's sphere of influence. But he knows enough to realize that the Ramsey version of events must conflict with what he remembers happened that night?


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  2. sharper

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    So that is what happens when a 3 year old utilizes a cell phone unobserved. Sorry!
     
  3. KariKae

    KariKae Well-Known Member

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    With the Ramsey's focus on religion, I would almost expect Burke to draw JonBenet as an angel watching over the family, rather than omitting her completely.
     
  4. arielilane

    arielilane Justice for Morgan

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    I think the R's gave BR a limited explanation of the events that morning. I don't believe BR had any involvement. imo

    I think BR experienced a lot of drama with PR, therefore, was pretty low-key to avoid ongoing drama. Hence, a daily event in the household. imo
     
  5. Alix

    Alix New Member

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    I wish I could read everything that was said, but he seems to be cold and selfish. Big surprise, there. Maybe he inherited his sociopathy genes from his Mom and Dad.

    I don't know about anyone else, but when my sisters were hurt when I was Burke's age(and a lot younger, too!), I became hysterical. When they hurt, I hurt.

    It's obvious he's been coached by his parents and the mouth-pieces, but he is still remarkably self-centered.
     
  6. Leomoon80

    Leomoon80 Well-Known Member

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    WHO is Jenny ? And was the opened package of 6 in cellophane panties, size 12 found by the police??

    Sorry, I can't read everything here......if it was already detailed.
     
  7. txsvicki

    txsvicki Active Member

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    I thought the fibers on JonBenet were from what appeared to have been from being wiped or cleaned with black (or was it navy?) wool material. I also thought John had another color shirt on that day, but was still wool. I wish fiber evidence would advance the way dna has so that it could be definitely determined in some crimes. Maybe even from the sheep and dyes.


    Also: someone can correct if I'm wrong, but I believe that once the Ramsey's got moved to Michigan they claimed to have found the size 12 underwear in a box that moved with them. I have no idea, or don't remember if the panties were said to have been found in the tube or how many were found.
     
  8. UKGuy

    UKGuy Well-Known Member

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    Leomoon80,
    Jenny Davis is Patsy's niece. No the opened package was not found by the police.
     
  9. Lovetoride55

    Lovetoride55 New Member

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    It's so clear. The kid suspects it was someone in his family. He keeps his mouth shut because he is afraid and wants to stay loyal to his parents. But he let's it leak. What do you think Zsa Zsa?
    AJ
     
  10. UKGuy

    UKGuy Well-Known Member

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    txsvicki,
    Fibers from John Ramsey's Israeli manufactured woolen shirt were found on JonBenet. They matched due to the Israeli connection, otherwise they could be cited as any old fibers, even blown in on the wind.

    This is correct, but contentious, since the Ramsey's found them, not LEA, e.g. chain of custody, and the Ramsey's needed to find them so that they could continue their fictional account of events. e.g. Patsy stated she placed the pack of size-12's into JonBenet's underwear drawer, as an explanation for JonBenet wearing a pair, but not that she was wearing a pair to the White's party. LEA stated they searched the drawer and house and found no size-12's.

    Now from this it follows that the intruder redressed JonBenet in those size-12's and removed the remaining pairs. This explanation contradicts Patsy's, so the remaining pairs had to surface!

    There is patently evidence that has been redacted otherwise the R's would not have gone to lengths that they did to make their version of events consistent.



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  11. smurf86

    smurf86 Est. 1986

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    Is there a full transcript of Burke's interview floating around anywhere?
     
  12. UKGuy

    UKGuy Well-Known Member

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    Lovetoride55,
    Why should BR need to suspect anyone else? He was in the house that night, he knows who shared JonBenet's pineapple snack, who sipped tea, what JonBenet was wearing and if it differed from how she was dressed in the wine-cellar. BR stated he watched as JonBenet walked into the house after the White's party, not carried in as his parents claimed.

    BR knows without a shadow of doubt that another Ramsey killed JonBenet, and if it was not him, then that leaves only two suspects, and if probability is any guide, that JonBenet was sexually assaulted prior to her death, might offer a guide to who was the catalyst in the JonBenet case!



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  13. Leomoon80

    Leomoon80 Well-Known Member

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    In other words it "follows" via logical deduction OR because the police (LE) claim that this is what they would have done, (they being the intruder(s) or single intruder)

    I don't know that logically, if it were me, who killed and possibly even harmed Jon Benet in a sexual way, that I'd think logically when looking to high tail it out of the house. :waitasec:

    Not sure what the inference is about "follows that"......although it might make a great deal of sense IF the stage was set and thought about prior to the finding of Jon Benet to take away said evidence.
     
  14. Leomoon80

    Leomoon80 Well-Known Member

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    It would be nice to read, to see exactly what he did say.
     
  15. smurf86

    smurf86 Est. 1986

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    Thats what i was thinking, as long as its un-edited and released in whole not just whatLin Wood or any one else wants us to see if you catch my drift.
     
  16. ILikeToBendPages

    ILikeToBendPages Well-Known Member

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    I haven't spent much time until now to learn more about JonBenet death so I'm trying to catch up, please bear with me.

    I read upthread about Burkes visit with a therapist and his manner and way of speaking and it sounds like"pragmatic speech" that is common with Atusim and the distance they have in terms of relating to other people.

    My seventeen year old grandson has Asperger and that is how many express themselves. They don't relate to people and situations like most folks. They have own way of looking at things and in how they "speak" and many times comes off cold or mean spirited.


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  17. DeeDee249

    DeeDee249 Well-Known Member

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    There is limited info on some things he said, but I doubt the actual transcript would ever be made public.
     
  18. UKGuy

    UKGuy Well-Known Member

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    Leomoon80,
    In this case two important issues are the staged aspect and Patsy Ramsey's statements about JonBenet's underwear. These are important since they offer evidence that the Ramsey's version of events may be inconsistent.

    Correct, reasoning that Columbo would consider.

    This is precisely why Columbo would reason as above, he might assume the intruders state of mind?

    The inference is about working out what follows if you accept that the following sentences are factually correct:

    1. Patsy stated that she placed the pack of Bloomingdale size-12's into JonBenet's underwear drawer.

    2. Police stated they searched JonBenet's underwear drawer and found no Bloomingdale size-12 underwear.

    So what must follow is this: if an intruder killed JonBenet then the intruder redressed JonBenet in the size-12's and left with the remaining pairs of Bloomingdales size-12 along with with JonBenet's size-6 underwear.


    But RDI suggests JonBenet was redressed in the size-12's to effect how JonBenet should appear as she was on returning from the White's party, as per the Ramsey account.

    So whichever theory you promote IDI or RDI the Bloomingdale size-12's are missing.

    And Columbo would have one more question for you: Who removed JonBenet's Bloomingdale size-12 underwear from her drawer?


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  19. dodie20

    dodie20 New Member

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    one thing that stands out, IMO, is BR continuously telling the Dr that he tried to forget things, and played his nintendo. Isn't this what he was seen doing the day Jon Benet was discovered? I wonder what things he was trying to forget then? If he had said, 'not think about things', instead of 'forget' things, I wouldn't have as much problem with it. Oh boy...I think he had a lot of things he wanted to forget. MOO.
     
  20. momof4ws

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    That stood out to me as well. I think he does know what happened but maybe not all the details of the staging. He may have been put to bed while JR and PR staged the death. If JB's death occurred between 10 p.m. and midnight...based on rigormortis and pineapple in intestine...then it would contradict when everyone supposedly went to bed. I don't believe any of them even went to bed shortly after they got home. Patsy stated in an interview that she had to finish packing for the next morning so we know she didn't go right to bed. John didn't either because he stated in his interview that he and Burke stayed up to work on a Christmas present project. We know that sometime JB had pineapple so she was up too. Something happened while they were all up...or at least awake...to eventually cause JB's death. Did an out of control argument between PR and JB occur and BR heard it and was told to go back to bed? Or were Burke and JB doing something together that escalated? The flashlight was kept in a drawer near the kitchen but was found on the counter by LE. I don't think the flashlight was used as an intended murder weapon but rather used as light initially... then ultimately used on JB in possibly a panic. I believe there are two possible suspects involved with JB being rendered unconscious, PR or BR. I think JR is an accessory by aiding in the staging. MOO>
     

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