CO - Gannon Stauch, 11, found deceased, Colorado Springs, El Paso County, 27 Jan 2020 *Arrest* #66

[Blondiexoxo]

Watching Crazy Not Insane again just to see how Lewis works. Making notes as I go.
A few minutes in a clip of Dr Lewis on tv many years ago is shown. The caption below her reads ‘Dorothy Otnow Lewis. MD, Forensic Psychiatrist’

So is she a forensic psychiatrist or clinical psychiatrist?

She also leaves out a lot of the details of the story of Marie Moore. She describes the young teen who Marie manipulated as ‘particularly sadistic’ and tells how he ‘ratted on Marie’, she says that the young girl just came over and was taken captive, absolutely not true. And that ‘people in the neighbourhood said her voice would change and she wanted to be called Billy’, she leaves out that the ‘people in the neighbourhood’ were other children she abused, manipulated and terrorised. She is clearly telling Marie Moore’s tale of what happened and not what the evidence showed. She paints Marie to be the victim in this horrific crime which couldn’t be further from the truth. Lewis didn’t believe in DID until she met Marie, all it took was for Lewis to be waking out the door and Marie to say ‘don’t go’ in a spooky voice, and that convinced her of the existence of DID.

From how she describes DID, from Lewis’ view if T had it, it would have been present since childhood. The children she shows in tapes as having DID sound like they’re just describing an imaginary friend they created to help them through childhood trauma, a much more reasonable theory IMO than genuine multiple personalities.

Lewis also didn’t tell us yesterday that she was ‘ridiculed at Yale’ for believing in DID. She was driven out of Bellevue by people who were hostile towards her and didn’t believe in her work so she left. Also not mentioned yesterday. Wish the prosecution would have touched on this, it sounds like she has always been thought of as not credible, others in the field did not believe in DID. But she insisted on diagnosing even small children who’d been through horrific trauma with DID. I wonder if those children still believe they have DID, have they lived a life believing they have DID and receiving medication for psychiatric issues?

All of this and I’m not even 30 mins in. She’s just starting on Arthur Shawcross now. He apparently had a small cyst on his temporal lobe that under ‘some circumstances’ can trigger abnormal electrical activity in the brain. Let’s see how she makes excuses for his crimes….
All MOO, please delete if not relevant xx

 

[heartandsoul]

I lost any sympathy for Dr Lewis when she praised LS (smart girl?) and vilified a grieving father who's actions were nothing short of heroic for his boy. Nah, it's a pass from me.

 

[Jw192]

I've had that creepy DONT GOOOOOO in my head all damn night ha

Wow, I'm still trying to comprehend what I just witnessed last night. I honestly can't believe how unprofessional and cringe it all was.

If I was Dr Lewis I would be googling face transplants a la lie bag

 

[LostOldUserName]

I've had that creepy DONT GOOOOOO in my head all damn night ha

Wow, I'm still trying to comprehend what I just witnessed last night. I honestly can't believe how unprofessional and cringe it all was.

If I was Dr Lewis I would be googling face transplants a la lie bag

I can't listen during the day so I depend on you all. By the end of the day I am exhausted and don't go back to listen. I am sure I miss a lot. With that said I am kinda glad I didn't hear this part or LS on tape lol

 

[Yellow Rose]

Good morning fellow warriors for Gannon! Hopefully today we can get this wrapped up with a bow and get our justice for sweet Gannon.

 

[Kiranerys]

Today was god awful. the nerve of that dr to insinuate about the defendants husband's. Tomorrows video should be interesting. I really want to see the defendant on the stand it should be the performance of a lifetime. I feel so awful for Al and Landen today but soon this will be over closing should be Friday verdict should be Friday then the defendant will be gone never to be spoken of or thought of again but Gannon his memory will always be with us . Very soon justice for Gannon

If Letecia testifies, I would really like to see Landen, Al, Al's wife, Landen's aunt Veronica, Al's Mum and any other family members from both sides sitting together in the front bench holding hands, showing love and solidarity in their quest for justice for Gannon, in short GannonStrong at its most powerful.

 

[wyome]

Dr. Lewis was there today to talk about herself and her pet disorder - DID. She barely mentioned Gannon. She talked about T with glowing admiration ("a smart girl" WTH?), diagnosed her without knowing Colorado's definition of insane, and despite not having what she admittedly required to have in order to make an educated decision. She submitted her report, which may have actually just been an initial impression description, LATE (and in fact may not have been written by her at all); came to court late... twice; met in secret with the defendant for 3 hours a couple of days ago; allows the defense attorney to sit in on her sessions; accuses the other two experts of being biased; and calls Al and Harley's dad unloving terrible people. What in the actual world is going on?!

I cheered when the prosecutor didn't allow her to finish an irrelevant story.

Dear Dr. Lewis,

Al did not abuse and murder a child, desecrate his body, hide evidence, tell lie after lie, after lie, sit in the courtroom and giggle, or any of the myriad of monstrous things T has done. Al is NOT the horrible person in this story. Not by a long shot.


So, does anyone think the state still intends to call rebuttal witnesses?

I was shocked when she went down the road of marrying the wrong men. <modsnip> The good doctor has a lengthy list of impressive education avenues; shame it all gets punctuated by this testimony. What a waste.

 

[cujenn81]

Watching Crazy Not Insane again just to see how Lewis works. Making notes as I go.
A few minutes in a clip of Dr Lewis on tv many years ago is shown. The caption below her reads ‘Dorothy Otnow Lewis. MD, Forensic Psychiatrist’

So is she a forensic psychiatrist or clinical psychiatrist?

She also leaves out a lot of the details of the story of Marie Moore. She describes the young teen who Marie manipulated as ‘particularly sadistic’ and tells how he ‘ratted on Marie’, she says that the young girl just came over and was taken captive, absolutely not true. And that ‘people in the neighbourhood said her voice would change and she wanted to be called Billy’, she leaves out that the ‘people in the neighbourhood’ were other children she abused, manipulated and terrorised. She is clearly telling Marie Moore’s tale of what happened and not what the evidence showed. She paints Marie to be the victim in this horrific crime which couldn’t be further from the truth. Lewis didn’t believe in DID until she met Marie, all it took was for Lewis to be waking out the door and Marie to say ‘don’t go’ in a spooky voice, and that convinced her of the existence of DID.

From how she describes DID, from Lewis’ view if T had it, it would have been present since childhood. The children she shows in tapes as having DID sound like they’re just describing an imaginary friend they created to help them through childhood trauma, a much more reasonable theory IMO than genuine multiple personalities.

Lewis also didn’t tell us yesterday that she was ‘ridiculed at Yale’ for believing in DID. She was driven out of Bellevue by people who were hostile towards her and didn’t believe in her work so she left. Also not mentioned yesterday. Wish the prosecution would have touched on this, it sounds like she has always been thought of as not credible, others in the field did not believe in DID. But she insisted on diagnosing even small children who’d been through horrific trauma with DID. I wonder if those children still believe they have DID, have they lived a life believing they have DID and receiving medication for psychiatric issues?

All of this and I’m not even 30 mins in. She’s just starting on Arthur Shawcross now. He apparently had a small cyst on his temporal lobe that under ‘some circumstances’ can trigger abnormal electrical activity in the brain. Let’s see how she makes excuses for his crimes….
All MOO, please delete if not relevant xx

I just decided to give the documentary a gander myself, and what’s remarkable to me are the similarities between her handling of the Shawcross case and this case. While she’s on the stand for the Shawcross trial, she becomes flustered during cross examination because the judge only wants her to answer with yes or no. Then she says to the judge — “he lied” (referring to the defense attorney re: neurological testing) and I can’t offer my true opinion without the test results.

Well that sure sounds awfully familiar, doesn’t it? Is that some sort of known tactic with her? If things start going south and she begins to appear not quite so professional and/or believable she claims that she didn’t know about the tests and therefore can’t offer her opinion?

 

[Hollypine]

I just decided to give the documentary a gander myself, and what’s remarkable to me are the similarities between her handling of the Shawcross case and this case. While she’s on the stand for the Shawcross trial, she becomes flustered during cross examination because the judge only wants her to answer with yes or no. Then she says to the judge — “he lied” (referring to the defense attorney re: neurological testing) and I can’t offer my true opinion without the test results.

Well that sure sounds awfully familiar, doesn’t it? Is that some sort of known tactic with her? If things start going south and she begins to appear not quite so professional and/or believable she claims that she didn’t know about the tests and therefore can’t offer her opinion?

A script she has been shilling for years

 

[BadRx]

I just decided to give the documentary a gander myself, and what’s remarkable to me are the similarities between her handling of the Shawcross case and this case. While she’s on the stand for the Shawcross trial, she becomes flustered during cross examination because the judge only wants her to answer with yes or no. Then she says to the judge — “he lied” (referring to the defense attorney re: neurological testing) and I can’t offer my true opinion without the test results.

Well that sure sounds awfully familiar, doesn’t it? Is that some sort of known tactic with her? If things start going south and she begins to appear not quite so professional and/or believable she claims that she didn’t know about the tests and therefore can’t offer her opinion?

I really hope the prosecution knows this!

 

[Love Never Fails]

REFRESHER (for Dr. Lewis):​

​

1. What is “insanity” under Colorado law?​

Defendants are considered insane at the time of the offense if they were either:

1. so diseased or defective in mind as to be incapable of distinguishing right from wrong; OR
2. suffering from a condition of the mind caused by mental disease or defect that prevented them from forming a culpable mental state that is an essential element of a crime charged.

Under the first prong, the defendant’s mental capacity to distinguish between right and wrong is measured against the societal standard of what is right and wrong. It is not a subjective standard.

And the second prong – where the defendant is so disordered that he/she cannot form criminal intent – applies only to cases where the defendant is facing charges for a “specific intent” crime. Specific intent crimes are offenses where the defendant’s mindset is an element of the crime, such as first-degree murder or assault.

In short, people are legally insane when – at no fault of their own – they are so mentally incapacitated that they cannot tell what is wrong or form criminal intent.

Potential examples of conditions or mental disorders that cause insanity include:

• Severe neurological disorders,
• Schizophrenia,
• Bipolar disorder,
• Poisoning with fumes or toxic substances, or
• Any other medical condition that produces serious delusions or a break with reality

​

Tests for insanity​

Insanity and mental illness often overlap, but they are not the same. A person can be mentally ill without being insane. (Note that Colorado is not a state that allows defendants to plead guilty but mentally ill (GBMI).)

M’Naghten Rule

Colorado’s definition of insanity is adapted from the M’Naghten Rule: Even if the defendant knew the nature and quality of what he/she was doing, he/she is insane if he/she did not know it was wrong. In short, the defendant has total cognitive disability. It is not considered insanity if the defendant knew his behavior was wrong but could not control it (“volitional incapacity”).

Federal Test

The Federal Test for insanity – codified in a statute in 1984 by Congress – also requires total cognitive incapacity: A defendant is insane if clear and convincing evidence shows his/her mental disease or defect prevented him/her from appreciated his/her conduct’s wrongfulness or nature and quality.

Irresistible Impulse Test

Colorado’s definition of insanity also draws upon the Irresistible Impulse test. Under this test, a person is insane if he/she had an uncontrollable impulse, was unable to choose his/her behavior, and could not control his/her actions.

Model Penal Code Test [N/A Colorado]

Other jurisdictions rely on various tests for insanity. For example, the Model Penal Code Test defines insanity as having a mental disease or defect precluding the person from having substantial capacity to recognizes the wrongfulness of the conduct or follow the law. Unlike the M’Naghten Rule, the defendant does not need to totally lack mental capacity to be found insane.

Product Test

And under the Product Test (also called the Durham Test) – which is no longer followed – criminality was excused if it was the result of the defendant’s mental disease or defect.

[Dr. Lewis cited the Durham Test in her response to Prosecutor Young about defining Insanity in the State of Colorado].

The "Insanity Defense" in Colorado - A Legal Guide

Learn how Colorado's insanity defense works, including its elements, process, and key differences from incompetency and intoxication.

www.shouselaw.com

Hi Seattle 1,
I love your posts. You get right to the heart of each matter. You review the law and you post it for all to read in every case I’ve followed. It’s so satisfying that one of my fellow websleuthers would take the time to do this for all of us. It sets the record straight. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you!

Clearly, Dr. Lewis does not know the definition of the law in CO, or as I suspect, was not informed nor able to concentrate on the stand.
All she seems to have reviewed is her past history.

 

[Love Never Fails]

Pretty sure T is stupid. In English, Spanish and Russian. What T lacks in smarts she makes up for in cunning. And that's not a compliment.

One of the hallmarks of intelligence IMO is the awareness of relativity. Even the smartest people recognize there are others who are still smarter. Maybe Stephen Hawking tops the smart pyramind but I bet even he bowed to the genius of the universe. Only an idiot would think she is smarter than everyone!

T was communicating throughout the horrifying assault on Gannon. Texting, talking, buying dog outfits, turning Laina away. T must have one of those rare cases of DID where the personas/personalities she made up get along and work together so well that they're -- welp -- integrated. You know, into one. Which is the opposite of dissociative. Just the one of you, T.

And that's plenty.

That T thinks her Ttales are credible, that's not smart (that's just stupid). It's not even delusional. It's just inflated. I like made-up me better than my dull self.

Hates her name. Probably hates herself. The very bench that narcissism sits its big fat bum upon.

Prison will look good on her.

Jmo

How was she able to snow AS so well? Doesn’t much matter now but she nothing to offer any man.

 

[Love Never Fails]

[…]

Lewis' cross-examination, conducted by prosecutor Dave Young, ended the day on Tuesday and was some of the most heated testimony of the trial thus far. During the cross-examination, Young accused Lewis of conducting a sanity examination that was not thorough, of being biased, and that she has a "disregard for court rules."

Lewis, who is over 90 years old and uses a wheelchair, arrived late to court this afternoon, and also did not turn in her sanity report to the court until four days before jury selection.

Lewis was clearly unhappy with Young's line of questioning, and stated numerous times that she stands by the findings of her sanity report and that she doesn't determine sanity for a paycheck.

Lewis' cross-examination will continue on Wednesday morning, where Young told the court he intends to play footage from Stauch's interview with Lewis to the jury.

Letecia Stauch trial: Forensic psychologist explains 'unusual' not guilty by reason of insanity plea

As the end of Letecia Stauch's trial draws near, the jury will soon be forced to answer the question of her sanity, and will have two drastically different reports to

gazette.com

Thought Dr. Lewis is 83?

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Good morning fellow warriors for Gannon! Hopefully today we can get this wrapped up with a bow and get our justice for sweet Gannon.

​

 

[heartandsoul]

Another day closer to justice

 

[GRT]

How was she able to snow AS so well? Doesn’t much matter now but she nothing to offer any man.

I've wondered about that, and I bet Al has too. Hindsight is 20:20.

My thought is that Al tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, but it's clear from all we've heard that he was tiring of her. She was too much work. Too much trouble.

It sounds as if he didn't really have many good options there for a while. Landon was married to someone Al thought wasn't a good influence on the kids and she was struggling emotionally. In comparison, LS probably looked okay.

He couldn't have guessed she would turn out to be a killer.

 

[AC's Grandma]

Great ending of the day -
Prosecutor: Why is it that Dr. Torres asked her to speak to Maria Sanchez and she says I'm not able to change to that persona, but when you ask she's able to change?
Doctor: Magic.
Prosecutor: Magic, okay those are my questions for today.

Boom, done. MOO, it's going to be a great Wednesday when we watch videos.

 

[girlhasnoname]

Here for Gannon.

Yesterday was a cluster beyond belief. I'm still kind of in shock, although not surprised at the testimony. The Defense couldn't possibly get a truly reputable expert to say that this defendant is DID or insane. This is the best they could do. Yikes, it was second hand embarrassing.

I am one of those that believe truth overcomes lies and good triumphs over evil.

This defendant is going to be going to prison where she belongs and Gannon will have his justice finally.

MOO

 

[nyvictoria]

Took me forever to watch the nightmare that was testimony today. I hope you all bear with me.

First, how amazing is it that the first defense witness become a prosecution witness.

Second, I was blown away that the Dr. Lewis testimony got a major blow when she remarks about "your doctors" implying that the previous sanity testimony was biased. AND, then, she is blindsided that her own legal team withdrew their request for the MRI and scans that she had told them she needed in order make a dx.

Third, she was outed as usually defining the legal definition in the jurisdiction for insanity and did not do that here in this case with an inference that the legal team did not want or need it.

OMG, today was a nightmare. I feel for this doctor. This trial and this defendant is way beyond her capabilities because of the complex lies and deceit of TS. They have not even asked her about the internet searches that TS did while in CO and SC on her phones, clearly looking for an out or someone who would be willing to go to jail for her.

Dr. Lewis is stuck in a hotel with her 100 lb valise, no one to talk to, and with more than a few dozen eggs on her face. She must be devastated that her long career will be pitted by this trial and this woman.

Dr Lewis reminded me of Alyce LaViolette of Jodi Arias fame. Trashing everyone but the guilty defendant. I was expecting Lewis to tell the Prosecutor to take a time out.

 

[Cindizzi]

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