southcitymom said:Neither do dildos, vibrators and *advertiser censored* tapes, but parents manage to keep these hidden. Most parents don't even TRY to explain the full spectrum of sexual behavior and somehow kids manage to figure it out on their own!
Maybe Glitch's dungeon is off premises...
In Glitchwizard's original posting, Luminol was mentioned. This led me to believe that any blood that might be around would not be readily apparent, and I don't imagine it could be seen without forensic assistance.OneLostGrl said:"Maybe Glitch's dungeon is off premises"
I sure hope so!
There is a difference between *advertiser censored* etc. and "the blood of several people" and equipment used to cause that blood. If it can easily be mistaken for a torture chamber perhaps having it in a home with children isn't a good idea.
To me it's kind of like keeping a loaded gun in your room where children might get ahold of it. Or having a "nice pitbull" as a pet. What IF?!?!
If they were to play with this stuff they find they could get hurt or hurt someone else seeing how it's so easy to have an instance when "the guy wasn't so good at it and accidently she died". Certainly if "the guy" had an accident, couldn't the kids as well?
As for having the blood of several people on your walls or wherever, I imagine seeing the blood would be a pretty scarey thing for a child!
JMO
Yes, you are probably right. We don't really have enough information to know if there was a true S&M angle. These guy could well just be an angry psycho.OneLostGrl said:The man has a history of Violence! Come on!
His ex-wife had a restraining order out on him! His neighbors saw him being verbally abusive to women. "We saw him argue with other girlfriends," said one man, who asked not to be named because he feared retribution. "We know that he had a temper and could be quite angry."
Is that part of the "sex games" too? From my understanding of S&M it is about the ultimate in trust and love not -anger and abuse! There is a huge difference!
Well it's SUPPOSED to be about trust and there's supposed to be a "safe word" to use when one participant wants to bail, but......... apparently this wasn't the set up in the OTOneLostGrl said:The man has a history of Violence! Come on!
His ex-wife had a restraining order out on him! His neighbors saw him being verbally abusive to women. "We saw him argue with other girlfriends," said one man, who asked not to be named because he feared retribution. "We know that he had a temper and could be quite angry."
Is that part of the "sex games" too? From my understanding of S&M it is about the ultimate in trust and love not -anger and abuse! There is a huge difference!
Great post. Agree with all of it.Amraann said:Someone likened Glitches dungeon to that of having a loaded gun in the house.
I would think that anyone with a gun in the house and who had children would take the neccessary precautions.
Why would a S&M chamber be any different?
Plenty feel there is nothing wrong with having a gun in the house and I agree as long as safety procautions are taken with children in the home. (Like a lock box)
Many parents don't permit their children in their bedrooms at all or their offices.
Why would that be any different then a locked door for an adult orientated room?
If a key for a lockbox is enough to ensure a gun in the home of children ensures safety then why would a key not be enough for a room?
I would think a two sided keyed deadbolt would be sufficient.
I also think that some people tend to get a little uncomfortable when sexuality is mentioned and it brings about unreasonable reactions.
I admire Glitches comfort in mentioning it.
That all being said.... This man seems to be very violent and I am not so sure this room really was an innocent thing that went to far.
I think it is more likely a place he took women against there will.
Possibly he brought her to the hospital because she would be missed and the others whom he harmed would not be? Maybe he did not know her mother knew nothing of their relationship?
Amraann said:Someone likened Glitches dungeon to that of having a loaded gun in the house.
I would think that anyone with a gun in the house and who had children would take the neccessary precautions.
Why would a S&M chamber be any different?
Plenty feel there is nothing wrong with having a gun in the house and I agree as long as safety procautions are taken with children in the home. (Like a lock box)
What I said was "To me it's kind of like keeping a loaded gun in your room where children might get ahold of it. Or having a "nice pitbull" as a pet. What IF?!?!
Many parents don't permit their children in their bedrooms at all or their offices.
Why would that be any different then a locked door for an adult orientated room?
My bedroom is my & hubby's private space and my boys know that they may not come hang out in there but sometimes in the middle of the night they will come to my room because they are sick or something. Even if a room is off-limit's, there may be a reason kids may enter it at some point.
I feel the potential danger of keeping a loaded gun in my home is too great. Violence breeds violence and I don't want my kids to ever think I would commit any kind of violence- on anyone!
I would never try to tell someone the choices they make for their kids are wrong... I was just saying how *I* felt, is all!
If a key for a lockbox is enough to ensure a gun in the home of children ensures safety then why would a key not be enough for a room?
I would think a two sided keyed deadbolt would be sufficient.
What if someday in a locked dungeon (In a childs home) something goes wrong and someone dies? Surely the cops would have to be called, no? That locked room would be opened when the child is there. A kid knowing someone died in their home would be enough, but, for the child to also be faced with the fact that "mommy or daddy" died in that room and there is blood in the room they were in.
A childs mind does not process things the way ours does.
The child would be left wondering why mommy or daddy "killed" someone.
Nope, the risk is too great for me.
I also think that some people tend to get a little uncomfortable when sexuality is mentioned and it brings about unreasonable reactions.
Discussing sexuality does not make me uncomfortable. The potential for violence does. If this woman died engaging in S&M then, yeah, I guess that does make me uncomfortable! A "guy wasn't so good at it" and someone else died!
I admire Glitches comfort in mentioning it.
That all being said.... This man seems to be very violent and I am not so sure this room really was an innocent thing that went to far.
I think it is more likely a place he took women against there will.
Possibly he brought her to the hospital because she would be missed and the others whom he harmed would not be? Maybe he did not know her mother knew nothing of their relationship?
Agreed. I got the impression from the articles I've read locally about this case, that she was a battered woman, this was not the first time he beat her up! So why keep going back to him if she wasn't living with him???:doh:Amraann said:That all being said.... This man seems to be very violent and I am not so sure this room really was an innocent thing that went to far.
I think it is more likely a place he took women against there will.
Possibly he brought her to the hospital because she would be missed and the others whom he harmed would not be? Maybe he did not know her mother knew nothing of their relationship?
Hey Glitchwizard. Thanks for sharing this. The story about the guy looking for power tools is HILARIOUS!GlitchWizard said:......(snip)
But to each his own. Just as one of you can't imagine someone spanking someone else for fun, I can't imagine laying in a bed with a man I was married to - knowing that each sexual time would be just like the last time - dissappointed, boring, routine. What makes you happy doesn't make me happy. Doesn't make either of us wrong. It just means we date/marry different types of men. That's all.
southcitymom said:Hey Glitchwizard. Thanks for sharing this. The story about the guy looking for power tools is HILARIOUS!
I highlighted the part of your post that describes me and dh to some extent! We're pretty vanilla these days and it works for us like a charm. IMHO, in the arena of sexual practice there's no right or wrong between consenting adults.
I also wanted to mention that I know one couple bound in a BDSM relationship and their level of intimacy and honesty is really amazing.