And they were so sure it didn't. Some of us could see marks on the back of his head without digitizing the video.
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Why would that matter? There's no evidence of any wrongdoing or influence being used to free GZ.
which the media has been a complete circus from day 1....they edited the 911 call to make it sound like GZ said he's black, the use of a first name for the victim and the last name of GZ, the old photos....it's just a messRBBM - I'm pretty sure that was a media source misreporting that information.
http://www.examiner.com/unsolved-ca...ys-as-john-doe-after-mom-reported-him-missing
~"It is unclear why ABC News reported that Trayvon's body was left in the morgue for three days, classified as "John Doe."~
exactly, and I don't think this was a racial thing...whomever had been out that night that wasn't a regular in the neighborhood would have been followed by him.Then why did they say this:
Ben Crump, an attorney for Martin's parents, told the panel that the family was convinced Martin was targeted for special attention because of his race, arguing that tougher laws against profiling might have averted the shooting.
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...mily-alleges-racial-profiling-before-congress
I don't think they want an investigation at all, I think they want GZ to be arrested immediately without an investigation.
do you have a link to this?The police have it and refuse to give it to the parents.
I agree....there are no need for these protests - there is an active investigation.But it is being investigated. Yes? The fact that protests are continuing leads one to believe that the protesters don't want an investigation, they want GZ hung out to dry.
JMO, OMO, and :moo:
really? there was no tape? how do we know that?Where was the crime scene tape put up, oh don't tell me, they didn't do that.
where did they call them liars?So what? Just because Zimmerman didn't see the phone, or tell his daddy about it, Zimmeran Senior did not have the right to get on national TV and flagrantly call the Martins' LIARS.
To me it shows the arrogance and entitlement the whole Zimmerman family seems to ooze. What unmitigated gall!
I wonder what they will say in the courtroom while listening to Trayvon's girlfriend relate how their wonderful hotdogging son accosted Trayvon?
imo
I can't imagine what they are going through.I support the Zimmermans. They have shown class in the midst of this mess.imo
I bet there have been some white kids walking slow wearing a hoodie.
Morning papa. I get what you're saying about the time and distance - I just don't think Trayvon even got close to his back porch.
Here's a thought. Would it make a difference if say GZ went through the second cut-through between the buildings (close to your #6) and possibly Trayvon saw him come out there and turned around to walk back to the main sidewalk so he could get out to the street his house was on and walk down that street to his front door?
I could see him turning around and heading back to that first sidewalk. He didn't tell the gf that - but would he? Also I do think he would have said something to the gf about being that close to home.
IDK - it is odd how close he ended up from that turn with the time in question.
JMHO
That's a real life threatening booboo on the back of Zimmerman's head. He deserved what he got for pursuing TM, something he had no business doing. Too bad TM didn't get off as easily as GZ.
I think you're right. Why allow his fun to be curtailed?
By the way, his 14 week training consisted of one class a week that met something like an hour or two. He had practically no training at all. But he sure could be a big bad CAPTAIN on the homeowner's association watch.
I bet the HOA are dreading the day they ever allowed him to watch their community.
If the HOA does not have insurance they could be liable out-of-their-own-pockets for paying ANY civil suit from the Martins, and possibly even for Zimmerman's legal defense. I saw that stated from 2 different attorneys yesterday. WOW!
IMO
Sorry, I may have misunderstood what you were trying to post. To me a witch hunt "lynching" someone regardless if they are innocent or guilty just because you think they are guilty. I did not mean you are claiming it's a witch hunt. In any case, the same could be said about TM except he not alive to claim he is innocent or defend his guilt. People differ in their views, we don't all think alike. In the end the differences of opinions are responsible for not accepting events as face value which is good.
I think what we will find is that both of them viewed each other as a threat, only one had the gun and TM had a right to defend himself, too. It also appears that only a jury may be able to decide whether or not GZ was justified in shooting TM. Does not mean TM did anything wrong? Resisting someone that ends up in a fight with you on top does not mean you were the aggressor and because you are on the bottom does not mean you are the victim. It should be interesting to see how this unfolds. And it never should have been a clear cut decision by SA. I agree that this portion of the law needs to be changed. Everything should be investigated and not just dropped because someone claimed SYG. jmo
This is why, Robert Zimmerman claims, his son decided to keep following Martin, so he could obtain an address to give to police.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/2...at-his-son-threatened-his-life/#ixzz1qtdepnxt
Can we at least end the debate over whether GZ continued to follow TM at this point? GZ's father states clearly that GZ did continue to follow TM after dispatch advised him to stop.
I was so taken aback by the other statements GZ father seemingly pulled out of his hiney that I entirely missed this apparent confirmation of the continued pursuit til just now.
He doesn't need life threatening injuries to claim SYG. In fact people without any injuries at all can claim SYG.
This is why, Robert Zimmerman claims, his son decided to keep following Martin, so he could obtain an address to give to police.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/2...at-his-son-threatened-his-life/#ixzz1qtdepnxt
Can we at least end the debate over whether GZ continued to follow TM at this point? GZ's father states clearly that GZ did continue to follow TM after dispatch advised him to stop.
I was so taken aback by the other statements GZ father seemingly pulled out of his hiney that I entirely missed this apparent confirmation of the continued pursuit til just now.
In fact, they can claim pretty much anything they want to when the other person is no longer able to tell their side of the story.
Ok - so let's say there was an "injury" to the back of his head. I'm still not hearing anything about that broken nose - that, sccording to his brother, is STILL broken.http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/george-zimmerman-enhanced-video-shows-injury-trayvon-martin-16053206
IMO the trickle of blood on the back of GZ's head does not indicate he was assaulted by and aggressive TM. It does at least put to bed for me that there was indeed a physical struggle, close quarters, hand to hand combat situation. Whether that is because GZ initiated or TM initiated remains to be seen IMO.
BBM
I 100% agree. The troubling thing is we might never know the true answers. The injuries (to both) and autopsy (to TM) will go a long way to perhaps explaining some of the true scenario but it probably will not explain everything. It's very hard to try to prove where one person's fear ends and anger begins.
I've learned from the past that usually the ones who 'threaten' the loudest are usually the ones who are most fearful when actual confrontation happens. I don't think it's any secret that GZ obviously felt fear from certain individuals, hence calling 911 a lot. I wonder how that fear would come into play once an actual confrontation took place. Would he 'man up' and take matters into his own hands? Or would he get so fearful that he do something to protect himself, even if he wasn't in true danger.
I'm not trying to explain away his 'non' injuries but I do believe there is a psychosis here that may need to be explored as well.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...c-news-neighborhood-watch-volunteer-zimmerman
ABC enhanced the video and now see wounds on Zimmermann's head just as he claimed.
I support the Zimmermans. They have shown class in the midst of this mess.imo