Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect #32

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Apologies if a repost ? HCW‘s recent public tv statement.

Title sounds a bits dubious , maybe @SuperdadV8 can help with any
interesting quotes ? Not sure if this has already been translated.

You can go onto to youtube and play the video with English sub titles, as far as I can see its the press release about the charges CB is to face, there was no update in it about the McCann case.
 
You can go onto to youtube and play the video with English sub titles, as far as I can see its the press release about the charges CB is to face, there was no update in it about the McCann case.

Yes I am aware of that but the translation is not very accurate .
 
I shall re-post his charges.


*Charged on October 11, 2022 – (@ am CET) – Germany/Portugal - Hazel Behan (20 @ time/now 38) (in her home, June 16, 2004, Praia de Rocha on the Algarve, Portimao, Portugal) - *Christian Stefan Brückner (Bruekner) (27 @time of 1st crime (2004)/45) charged (Oct. 11, 2022) with sexual assault (suspect held a knife & brutally raped her. The accused then tied & gagged the woman to a table & raped her again. He then whipped the victim on the back with a whip he had brought with him & finally forcibly performed oral sex with the victim. The accused filmed large parts of the events with a video camera he had brought with him).
Germany/Portugal – *Charged (Oct. 11, 2022) - a 14 year old teenager (assaulted/hit the naked girl with a whip. Said to have brutally forced the girl to have oral sex. The accused also videotaped this act). Took place between Dec. 28, 2000 to April 8, 2006 on the Praia da Luz, Algarve, Portugal.
Germany/Portugal - *Charged (Oct. 11, 2022) - an elderly Italian lady (70-80 yrs old) (tied up & raped the victim. He then hit the victim several times with a whip. The accused is said to have recorded the entire event with a video camera). Took place around the same time (between Dec. 28, 2000 to April 8, 2006) on the Praia da Luz, Algarve, Portugal.
Germany/Portugal – *Charged (Oct. 11, 2022) - 10 year old German girl (Joana.E) (wearing only shoes & otherwise naked. He grabbed the child's wrist & began to perform masturbation movements on his naked penis). On Salema (Zalema) beach, near Praia da Luz, Portugal, April 7, 2007).
Germany/Portugal – *Charged (Oct. 11, 2022) - 11 year old Portuguese girl (pulled down his trousers & underpants & made masturbation movements on his naked penis in order to sexually arouse himself, until the frightened girl ran to her father for help. The suspect was arrested on the spot by the Portuguese police). Exposed himself in playpark, São Bartolomeu de Messines, June 11, 2017).
Brueckner is currently serving a 7 year sentence for the 2005 rape on a pensioner. While he is still the main suspect in Madeleine case, these above cases will be tried first & he will be charged with Madeleine later.
*Will be Charged later (maybe) (@ am CET) – Germany/Portugal – Madeleine Beth McCann (3) (May 3, 2007, disappeared from hotel room while sleeping with her younger twin siblings, while parents ate at restaurant near the Mark Warner Ocean Summer Club in Praia da Luz; not found) - *Christian Stefan Brückner (Brueckner) (30 @ time of crime/43/now 45) named suspect on Sept. 17, 2020.
Brueckner info from June 1, 2020 thru Sept. 3, 2022 reference post #769 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...soner-identified-as-suspect-31.633153/page-39

Oct. 11, 2022 Update: Specifically, the accused is charged with three acts of serious rape & two acts of sexual abuse of children, specifically:
1. At a point in time that cannot be determined more precisely between December 28, 2000 & April 8, 2006, surprising an unknown 70-80 year old woman in her bedroom in her holiday apartment in Portugal. Then the masked suspect is said to have tied up & raped the victim. He then hit the victim several times with a whip. The accused is said to have recorded the entire event with a video camera.

2. On another day between December 28, 2000 & April 8, 2006, which can no longer be precisely determined, the accused allegedly assaulted an unknown, German-speaking girl aged at least 14 naked in the house he lived in in Praia da Luz in Portugal tied to a wooden pole in the living room. First he hit the naked girl with a whip. The accused is said to have brutally forced the girl to have oral sex. The accused also videotaped this act.
3. On June 16, 2004 at around 3:00am, the accused in Praia da Rocha in Portugal is said to have gained access to the apartment of a then 20-year-old woman from Ireland via the balcony. The sleeping woman was then awakened by the masked suspect holding a knife & brutally raped. The accused then tied & gagged the woman to a table & raped her again. He then whipped the victim on the back with a whip he had brought with him & finally forcibly performed oral sex with the victim. The accused filmed large parts of the events with a video camera he had brought with him. While the accused later fled over the balcony, the victim managed to free herself & crying to ask for help.
4. On April 7, 2007 at around 3:30pm, the accused is said to have ambushed a 10-year-old German girl who was playing on the rocks behind a hole on a section of beach in Salema in the district of Faro in Portugal, wearing only shoes & otherwise naked. He grabbed the child's wrist & began to perform masturbation movements on his naked penis. He asked the girl with a grin to look at his naked genitals & the masturbation movements he was making in order to sexually arouse himself. After the accused had ejaculated, he let go of the girl & fled.
5. On June 11, 2017, in the early hours of the morning at around 2am during the so-called snail festival on a playground in Bartolomeu de Messines in Portugal, the accused made eye contact with an 11-year-old Portuguese girl who was on the swings of the playground there have sat. Then, while constantly eyeing the child, the accused pulled down his trousers & underpants & made masturbation movements on his naked penis in order to sexually arouse himself, until the frightened girl ran to her father for help. The suspect was arrested on the spot by the Portuguese police.
On the basis of the indictment, an arrest warrant was also requested because the public prosecutor's office believed that there was an urgent suspicion of a crime. There is also a risk of escape and repetition.
 
As we are constantly guessing about the alleged MO, the part "recording everything" hasn't been mentioned enough in that matter, IMO.

Maybe that's the crucial reason for FF to hang on the missing scar or tattoo on CB's thigh or buttock theory, that likely just could have been nothing more, than a pull in the tights. No visible cross is capable of creating doubt, who the visible perp might be?!

For me it's getting harder and harder to believe, that the whole investigation against CB wouldn't be based on particular footage. JMO...
 
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I don't think we will get any more info now until trial (assuming it proceeds).

It's been noticeable HCW has made very limited statements in the German media since spring.

This is in the courts now so I think we won't hear anything further from him.
 
Has anyone read that the older victim on the video later when CB put off his mask is clearly to see and he put a pillow on the victims head an then the video stopped?
could that mean this case is possibly a murder case? Well we donknow if today she would be still alivel
„The sequence of events is very similar, and the woman also spoke English. However, she was not petite, but rather corpulent and wore the swimming goggles that the American woman had not reported. After the perpetrator beat and raped the woman in the video with a whip, he pulled off his mask. According to the witness, it revealed Christian B., who at the end of the video had taken a pillow and pressed it on the face of his victim. At this moment, the sequence broke off.“ FAZ is a serious newspaper but I never heard of this before:
 
The FAZ article is paywalled.

Can you clarify, how is the content of the video known? Is it testified to in the case of the American, though the video was of a different rape?

There seems to have been confusion that the witness saw a video of the American rape but actually it was the unknown Italian elderly woman?
 
Has anyone read that the older victim on the video later when CB put off his mask is clearly to see and he put a pillow on the victims head an then the video stopped?
could that mean this case is possibly a murder case? Well we donknow if today she would be still alivel
„The sequence of events is very similar, and the woman also spoke English. However, she was not petite, but rather corpulent and wore the swimming goggles that the American woman had not reported. After the perpetrator beat and raped the woman in the video with a whip, he pulled off his mask. According to the witness, it revealed Christian B., who at the end of the video had taken a pillow and pressed it on the face of his victim. At this moment, the sequence broke off.“ FAZ is a serious newspaper but I never heard of this before:
No offence, but that's common knowledge!

But as i said before, hard to imagine, any charge has just been built of Helge B's and Manfred S's stories, not having the victim as a witness. It just makes not any sense IMO.
 
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The FAZ article is paywalled.

Can you clarify, how is the content of the video known? Is it testified to in the case of the American, though the video was of a different rape?

There seems to have been confusion that the witness saw a video of the American rape but actually it was the unknown Italian elderly woman?
 
It was about an older lady wearing a swim mask, the same HB and MS found on his house, so I think it wasn’t DM rape, it was the other older lady. I never read that he put a pillow on someone’s head
 
As we are constantly guessing about the alleged MO, the part "recording everything" hasn't been mentioned enough in that matter, IMO.

Maybe that's the crucial reason for FF to hang on the missing scar or tattoo on CB's thigh or buttock theory, that likely just could have been nothing more, than a pull in the tights. No visible cross is capable of creating doubt, who the visible perp might be?!

For me it's getting harder and harder to believe, that the whole investigation against CB wouldn't be based on particular footage. JMO...
Obviously he is full of scars and birthmarks. 5 inch scar on the back?
 

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Does anyone know if the judgement for the rape conviction discussed in the FAZ article is available to read online?

TIA
 
Interesting thanks, the scars were reported in the early days, but not in so much detail IIRC.

Maybe this came from the Salema assault it was in broad daylight and he was completely naked , I’m sure SF had access to these police reports .
 
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