Lest not forgot the Value City trailer and the connection...
What is that?
Lest not forgot the Value City trailer and the connection...
This other W family is/was into horses too. 2nd one to turn up dead isn't it? One in prison still as far as I know, said to be friend of CR Sr. And one property searched by LE (2017?) with a concrete barn floor jack-hammered up.
Lest not forgot the Value City trailer and the connection...
Exactly. One term that was used ..."right hand man".
Edit: To add more info.
One of the senior walls retired from Value City Distribution Center. A Value City semi trailer was parked on CR's property, "full of flea market stuff".
Nov. 2016 - Horse barn search at walls - Cadaver dog brought in on Pike County search
Isn't V. Walls in fed prison for the Chilly Loco bust? edit: Chilly, not Chilli
I thought he got out? Maybe just talk? JMO
Delete. This post was to Betty P to show the Wagner's did provide DNA samples to LE, but then I saw OhioBlues had already posted the information.
I'm going to reserve judgment on that for now. I'm not sure I can trust what their attorney alleged. JMO.
If true, I doubt that testing happened until later in the investigation, possibly just prior to that article and nearly a year after the murders. If true, the DNA test would have revealed a match to one member of the family, resulting in the "laser focus". By itself, it wasn't enough to build a case against all the killers. The "laser focus" in the summer of 2017 was the beginning of LE's effort to begin building that case, gathering evidence, tracking the family. They (accurately) assumed arresting one member of the Wagner family wouldn't result in that family member dropping the dime on the others. JMO
It's possible. I still wonder why begin using the name White Pines. Angela used it for the burned kennel in prior years. Three businesses with the same name seems to indicate it means something to someone. JMO
I once wondered if back then Billy was going to be over or inherit those entities named White Pines. The hunting club fits with hobbies of the boys, Angela previously had the kennel, but the White Pines realty is where I started changing my mind. I don't see Billy associated with it anywhere. Even the signatures are witnessed by Robin and Lucy.
Does anyone have any idea where the naming of White Pines came from?
GW3 has a Norse tattoo the Valknut on his arm. I’m not sure if the family has any odinist ties or if they just think Norse symbolism are cool. The pine tree is a symbol of the birth of Frey, the god of sun and fertility. In other cultures it’s supposed to represent peace.
White Pines are all over Ohio too. So, not sure if its tied to any of the above but that’s my input on the name
GW3 has a Norse tattoo the Valknut on his arm. I’m not sure if the family has any odinist ties or if they just think Norse symbolism are cool. The pine tree is a symbol of the birth of Frey, the god of sun and fertility. In other cultures it’s supposed to represent peace.
White Pines are all over Ohio too. So, not sure if its tied to any of the above but that’s my input on the name
I don't know if the 845 Bethel property was vacant, but maybe they went back there after the 3/10/2017 closing.
Could have even had a bonfire to get rid of things, before the move to AK? Was that where the burnt VCR tape was found?
Wasn't there a search at 845 Bethel? I can't remember what date. I'll try to find it tomorrow.
Night all!
GW3 has a Norse tattoo the Valknut on his arm. I’m not sure if the family has any odinist ties or if they just think Norse symbolism are cool. The pine tree is a symbol of the birth of Frey, the god of sun and fertility. In other cultures it’s supposed to represent peace.
White Pines are all over Ohio too. So, not sure if its tied to any of the above but that’s my input on the name
Was the Chilly Loco bust the fed operation that included the sheriffs departments of the surrounding area excepting the Pike Sheriff department? I don't remember any of the details. Could the Rhoden's commercial grow been part of that crime organization... like an unindicted conspirator?Exactly. One term that was used ..."right hand man".
Edit: To add more info.
One of the senior walls retired from Value City Distribution Center. A Value City semi trailer was parked on CR's property, "full of flea market stuff".
Nov. 2016 - Horse barn search at walls - Cadaver dog brought in on Pike County search
Isn't V. Walls in fed prison for the Chilly Loco bust? edit: Chilly, not Chilli
Or he's a white supremacist, which is another interpretation of this Nordic Valknut tattoo. But there are actually many interpretations of it:
What Does Valknut Tattoo Mean? | 45+ Ideas and Designs
Photos of one of his tattoos was turn over to his defense attorneys as evidence against him.
As I've mentioned before I believe it's his scorpion tattoo that was turned over as evidence, it's above and slightly down the top of his right "trigger" finger. This tattoo has been much discussed in previous threads, but I mention it here in case you are not familiar with it.
The family sells dogs with references and photos from happy customers on their website. I don't know if the W's named the dogs or if the happy customer named them. There are 3 different dogs named Odin on their website.
Yes it’s connextsd to the case lol what isn’t connected to the case is the better question lmao
I hear ya'.. just because SW was a cousin to VW, he surely is involved, has to be..
One thing I don't understand is why the Ohio Department of Rehabilitation and Corrections were in on the searches? I've looked at their website and anything I can find only states that duties of whomever in the ODRC are institutional. They don't mention their employees helping with man power for large searches. Why would they have been involved?searches started 5/12/17 (Friday)
Angela interviewed 5/13/17 (Saturday)
5/15/17 (Monday) the article below with this statement included
“Jake Wagner's Facebook page claimed he was on vacation in Alaska and Canada Monday morning but by early evening the photos had been removed.”
Questions remain after Pike County massacre investigators search properties
Interviews continued 5/16-21/17
If they were vacationing I’m not sure why he removed the photos. I think “vacation” was to make it appear to the public like they had no clue what was going on under the disguise of being away on vacation.
Another article:
‘During those searches, the Wagners were in Alaska on a "family vacation," Angela Wagner has said.”
IF her statement IS true, I guess vacation was a bit interrupted by investigators for questioning.
Lawyer: Mike DeWine is harassing family in Rhoden case that moved to Alaska
I don’t understand the connection, could someone please explain. Thank you.