fred&edna
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As my mother used to say, "What in the Sam Hill is going on?"
Are there any legal analysts (or the like) discussing these delays... anywhere?!
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If there is I sure cannot find any...Dr. charged with 14 murders and no media covering it? Thanks to Gardenista (sp) here I have kept up with the complete lack of any proceedings for the entire week...can you imagine what the jury is thinking?As my mother used to say, "What in the Sam Hill is going on?"
Are there any legal analysts (or the like) discussing these delays... anywhere?!
I guess that is possible if Dr. Husel is nervous about a hung jury and this continuing to ruin his life. But I would have to think that anything he would agree to would be so minimal that State would be hesitate to accept ...I don't know what the general feelings are in the community in which this took place. Wish we had more local input. From the outside it looks very clear cut but not sure about close to home and the jury. Also did the defense get the jury they wanted? Are they seeing signs in the jury response that tells them it could be hung. Those little things may be at play. I know at one point very early on some jurors were overheard talking about the "notoriety" of one of the defense attorneys!!! It was addressed by the judge I believe. JB is still associated with CA...that was an unforgettable case and one or more jurors could just not like him and take it out on Dr. Husel. These things happen. If I were Dr. Husel and he gets to walk after this I would move to a different country!!My guess is they are trying to hammer out a last minute plea bargain before it goes to the jury.
Unfortunately, I haven't found any legal analysis discussions.Are there any legal analysts (or the like) discussing these delays... anywhere?!
Yes I can see that argument happening for sure maybe days ago...does not both sides argue and judge rule...how could this still be going on. If you don't like the ruling and lose the case then appeal.Reason for long delay? Could be a plea deal, but I think they are debating 'lesser included' charges. If lesser charges are included, the chance of jurors agreeing to at least one guilty verdict is more likely. This would have serious ramifications for our medical profession. If Husel is found guilty and is then incarcerated, this will create a chilling effect for doctors now and in the future, which could lead to painful end-of-life patient experiences. My opinion.
Agree that it shouldn't take this long for the judge to rule on lessers. But the judge might have reviewed a pile of case law as well as consulting other judges. After that ruling, they also had to work on jury instructions which could be tedious because of the number of charges and slight difference in each case?Yes I can see that argument happening for sure maybe days ago...does not both sides argue and judge rule...how could this still be going on. If you don't like the ruling and lose the case then appeal.
IANAL, but it is my understanding that 'settlement' doesn't happen with criminal cases. Settlement is in civil cases.So if they agree to some sort of settlement that would I assume not be public information...would all take place behind closed doors...jurors would never return and we will be left wondering? It would no doubt have stipulations that no parties divulge anything to media etc. That leaves only families to talk I guess. Just speculating because the more I think about it the more I think that is what is happening. I don't think either side would want a jury to be away from the case and evidence for this long and then be asked to deliberate. Confirms my idea we will never see closing arguments. I think it could be announced before the weekend...it will mean that those of us wanting to see Dr . Husel walk out of court with a not guilty will never see that.
Okay I am thinking more of civil...you are correct. hard waiting this long. If this judge is as effective as he was in trial and with his bias probably another reason things are dragging along. It is inviting problems with jury if they still need them.IANAL, but it is my understanding that 'settlement' doesn't happen with criminal cases. Settlement is in civil cases.
Also, proceedings in criminal court are public record, with rare exception for exemptions.
Holy crap
Cathy Russon
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According to WOSU : Defense has filed with the Ohio Supreme Court to remove Judge Holbrook from the #WilliamHusel case.
Affidavit seeking removal of judge in Husel trial filed