Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #35

[Irmese]

He could have been eligible for Social Security benefits, would be interesting to know.

He could be working under the table or his parents could have been sending him money.

 

[cass523]

Fitzgerald said, "Key Question Why and how he hid this for 88 days"

 

[ilovechili]

Shotgun used
Shaved head to not leave hair behind

Nothing shows he had contact with anyone in family

He went to great lengths to prepare to take her

To me, if they know this, they have something, his computer, his phone, his plans written out in detail, etc... When he shaved head and so on.... There is more to it than we know...

 

[Ibiz]

Why won't they say what the connection in Barron is???

I thought I heard the sheriff say, their looking into the fact that he may have worked somewhere else in Barron, besides the Turkey plant.

 

[katydid23]

in the press conference the sherriff stated that he shaved his head to avoid leaving evidence at the closs home, but I've seen photos of him from 2015 where he had a shaved head...according to the press conference they also said hes been targeting her but they didnt say how he knew about her

I think his shaved head in 2015 was when he was 18, and possibly going off to boot camp. Maybe, maybe not. JMO

 

[Mom24]

I'm wondering if Mr. Closs heard a car or some noise outside and was looking out the window or heading to the door to investigate when the perp shot through the door. The dad was found near the door, but it's not as if the perp knocked first, as we now know. I think he was looking for something he heard outside.

The perp clearly planned this out. So creepy to think of that.

jmo

I think the parents were shot as Patterson was leaving. I think he shot the door in, walked through looking for Jayme, held the parents at bay with the gun. Denise called 911 and he shot them as he left. The police were there within a few minutes of the 911 call, but now I'm inclined to believe the neighbors did hear a shot and that shot was the shooting in of the door.

 

[Dum-Dum Sucker]

Woman who Jayme ran to for help is being interviewed on Local Mpls. Channel 5. She says she initially did not ask Jayme any questions. Her goal was first to get Jayme to safety.

 

[Ragnarok]

It's unlikely that any details will be released about anything such as sexual assault. It may be said she was sexually assaulted but it's VERY unlikely anything else will be reported aside that.

Usually the only time details come out is once someone like this is 18+ THEY may choose to put it out there (via interview or book, etc.)

If they are confident that they can convict on the murder and kidnapping charges; they may not press on the SA charges, to spare Jayme having to testify. On the SA LE, prosecutor, and family will discuss that decision. SA charges can be put on the table later if necessary or wanted.

 

[Klarys]

Casting doubt on the theory she knew or would even want to know this guy. There's just something about him which screams basement dwelling 'incel'.
Can't get a girlfriend, still thinks he's owed a pretty young virgin he can train to be obedient to him, the older a woman is, the more independent she likely is; so he grabs a young teen to achieve his goal of the perfect 'waifu', killing her parents because they're in the way and how else is she supposed to learn to be completely reliant on him if they're around, etc.
I've read some really disgusting incel fantasies and it could be that the kidnapper decided to make his own fantasies a reality.

 

[kebdal23]

I think his shaved head in 2015 was when he was 18, and possibly going off to boot camp. Maybe, maybe not. JMO

I think he shaves his head because he has premature balding, like my son. They are self-conscious so they shave the rest so it's not as noticeable. JMO

 

[Mom24]

Woman who Jayme ran to for help is being interviewed on Local Mpls. Channel 5. She says she initially did not ask Jayme any questions. Her goal was first to get Jayme to safety.

I'm sure she was terrified. This man had already shot two people, it wouldn't be any loss to shoot more.

 

[Dum-Dum Sucker]

It turns out that one of the adults in the home Jayme was taken to for help was one of Jake Patterson's middle school teachers.

 

[BRRI]

I'm thinking brother may live out of a state.

Yes I think so, but that doesn’t always mean anything either

 

[Andreee]

the woman who found Jayme Closs while walking her dog yesterday in Gordon, WI, says the 13-year-old approached her and said, "I’m lost, and I don’t know where I am, and I need help."

Nutter says Jayme “wasn’t dressed for the weather," was out without a coat or gloves, and “when she told me who she was, I figured she must have left in a hurry."

“When she got near me and I could see who she was, she told me, 'I’m Jayme.'" [/QUOT

Jayme's bravery is something else, she deserves so much credit. I wish her nothing but good for her future, bless her. I honestly hope the full strength of the law is used to put that piece of scum behind bars forever.

Woman who Jayme ran to for help is being interviewed on Local Mpls. Channel 5. She says she initially did not ask Jayme any questions. Her goal was first to get Jayme to safety.

Good for the neighbour, how great is that! She knew to get Jayme (and herself!) to safety and that the questions could wait.

 

[MCDRAW]

IMO, LE is going to need to be more forthcoming with info. The truth is that the public has been at risk for the past few months. They need to reveal the connection to the Closs family at the very least. As happy as the locals are that she is safe, I see the public getting angry pretty quickly. And I wouldn’t blame them. (Maybe this will come in time...I hope so).

I don't think they know the connection yet. If there even was one. There are evil people that do evil things all the time.

 

[The Dude]

I lived in the ECA (Eau Claire Acres) for over 7 years. These 'cabins' are lived in by few folks who are permanent residents but the vast majority are tourists from Barron, Chetek, the Twin Cities, Chicago. Barron has deep roots in the Gordon area however. I knew a group of 5 bear hunters that the only time they showed up at their cabin in the ECA was for fishing twice a year or running bears with dogs in the fall. They close up the place after bear hunting & you don't see them again til spring. It doesn't surprise me that this guy thought it possible to stay under the radar up in Gordon. Not at all.

This is all true for the entire region. Good thing, though, that there were at least a couple of year-rounders very close by!

 

[Quill]

It turns out that one of the adults in the home Jayme was taken to for help was one of her middle school teachers. More clarification to come per ABC Channel 5 News.

I believe she had been the teacher of the suspect, not Jayme. I believe the interview I saw said something about her teaching him middle school science.

 

[Mistermagoo]

I think the parents were shot as Patterson was leaving. I think he shot the door in, walked through looking for Jayme, held the parents at bay with the gun. Denise called 911 and he shot them as he left. The police were there within a few minutes of the 911 call, but now I'm inclined to believe the neighbors did hear a shot and that shot was the shooting in of the door.

Anything is possible at this point. Joseph Duncan had the whole family in a room before he started killing

 

[ilovechili]

She escaped the home when perp was not in the home. Appears he was out looking for her.

And while facts can be fluid and change, this morning, the Douglas Co. Sheriff said it did not appear he was out looking for her. But maybe that is just erring to the side of caution...

 

[Dum-Dum Sucker]

Sheriff said they were trying to confirm if he had another job at some point in Barron. IMO

Channel 5 News reports that, besides working for one whole day at Jennie-O, JP also had a job in Hayward, WI, where he worked for.....one whole day.