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In above link to tide datum I would consider the Geelong datum to be the closest to area. High tide is left column.
Geelong is around some corners . . . I would have thought Lorne.
BBM: A high tide is very different from a king tide. A high tide is a normal closer-washing tide, a king tide is a ferocious, over-spraying, angry tide created by a big storm with massive winds blowing at the same time as high tide.
I have experienced several king tides when I lived close to the beach. They are very scary, and not something a runner would train in. There is generally no beach even visible during a king tide. Just crashing waves right up to the land's edge.
It was not an especially high high tide on Sunday 1 October. The high point was 1.33m at 8am. Compare this to the high point on 11 October, 1.72m, or expected for 8 & 9 November, 1.78m.
Here is a link to met bureau tide datum for relative period. It appears that if Elisa did go in for a swim the timing was as high tide was going out. All the beaches in area are also subject to powerful rips therefore it is possible she had got herself caught up in a rip on a lowering high tide. The worst possible scenario imo
http://www.bom.gov.au/oceanography/projects/ntc/vic_tide_tables.shtml
I am aware of the difference, having been a surfer in my youth and the partner of a fisherman in my adult years.
I think we need meticulously or richieswan to analyse the tide, swell and currents at the time.
Ahh ... but others may not be aware, hey? By the way that the reference was written. :wink:
think that is what is so difficult here. At which time? There are about 10 full days to consider. And about 10 or so hours in which Elisa may have gone missing.
It depends on interpretation. One persons king tide is anothers high tide. He was running through what Id call high tide.
Yes, I definitely would call that a high tide. I don't think the race would have continued if it truly was a king tide, in that area.
Why stay at home and watch the grand final on television when you could be there watching the game LIVE with your children & husband?
What would be the reason?
I know what I'd prefer....unless....
Any ideas?
It depends on interpretation. One person’s ‘king tide’ is another’s high tide. He was running through what I’d call high tide.
Exactly. In the words of General Rumsfeld:
‘Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know. t is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones.
And so people who have the omniscience that they can say with high certainty that something has not happened [...] they can [...] free associate. They can do the things I can't do.’
http://archive.defense.gov/Transcripts/Transcript.aspx?TranscriptID=2636
Why stay at home and watch the grand final on television when you could be there watching the game LIVE with your children & husband?
What would be the reason?
I know what I'd prefer....unless....
Any ideas?
I’d prefer not to watch the footy at all unless someone I know is playing. I know — unAustralian.
forgive me for coming across as omniscient... but .. much to his well known fury, Mr Rumsfeld, Donald to his pals, never made General. It would have been difficult for him to do, as he was never in any armed forces, merely the Secretary for Defence.. not a very good one either, .....
I don't know, but I personally would be a bit apprehensive about having my young girls go to a boozy, packed footy game. If they needed to go to the loo, and I could not accompany them. Something as 'small' as that would put me off allowing them to go without me.
Yup SA.
My hinky says something is amiss.
If I wasn't invited or wasn't welcome that would break my heart.