Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #42

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  1. TexieLouWho21

    TexieLouWho21 Well-Known Member

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    Risperdal (Risperidone): Uses, Dosage, Side Effects, Interactions, Warning
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  2. wenwe4

    wenwe4 Well-Known Member

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    Kay was CV's sister. I have heard nothing about CV's (KW's) parents. I think LVD has never been held to task on her lies and thought she could wiggle her way out of them (reminiscent of walking LEO all the way to the end of the hall to find her office at Universal). She thought she could keep all her plates in the air (ie: grandma, friend, children's movie theatre, friends next door, Alex took him, etc.)
     
  3. CSIDreamer

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    I don't see how it could because you (rather Mormons) can purchase the undergarments on the church shopping link. It's personal property. Jmo
     
  4. Shadow@light

    Shadow@light Well-Known Member

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    ReadyorNot, you have a point, I live in Australia.
    Here it is a controlled substance.
    I check Medical Guide it is a Atypical Anti psychotic for Mental Health. I presumed the same rule applied in other countries.
    Also we live in a small country town, it might various to place to place if I lived in Sydney they might have not check in small towns they do. I am sorry.
     
  5. Spartygirl

    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    I will admit I had thought that maybe a 2% chance of the kids actually being safe somewhere.
    But 98% thought that they were killed and LVD and CD and AxC all knew they were killed and buried in CD backyard.
    There is NO way LVD and CD did NOT know and I will even venture that MBP and IP and ZP knew also.
    They were all in on it. JMO
     
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    AZlawyer Verified Attorney

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    I had to stop following the threads when I realized I was about 5 threads behind :p Thank goodness for the media thread! I just read the probable cause affidavit. So sad what became of those children once they were tagged as “zombies”—and so convenient that the dark spirits always came to take over the bodies of people who presented some kind of obstacle to Chad/Lori’s fantasies...

    As I was quickly scrolling through threads in an attempt to catch up after the bodies were found, my feeling was that the object on the orange tarp-thing was animal remains, which would explain (1) looking like remains of a living creature but (2) not (apparently—based on a snapshot which could be misleading) being treated with the care one would expect by the searchers. So I was interested in the “pet cemetery” info in the affidavit. Have you guys reached any consensus on that orange tarp yet?
     
  7. wenwe4

    wenwe4 Well-Known Member

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    No and the orange tarp has been driving me nuts this whole time. I am so glad you are here AZ! (Missed you and many other WS friends here).
     
  8. nhmemorymaker

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    JJ had zero blood relationship with Janis. And her weird statements regarding "JJ does no us...no he really does" says she knew practically nothing about JJ.

    And Janis knew sooo little about Lori's goings on or Alex's goings on.... I really believe this was a distanced relationship until more recently.
     
  9. Spartygirl

    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    He may have been questioned
    We just don't know
    LE wont share everything with us, darn it. LOL
    I understand why they don't but the waiting game tests my patience when I want all of the details. LOL
    But I am glad they don't share until necessary to do so, like in court.
    We all want to see this group of murderers found Guilty and we don't want LE or anything to mess that up.
    They only get one shot at it.
     
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  10. Spartygirl

    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    Charles was murdered July 11th,
    Yellowstone trip was September 8th
    CV was not alive to wonder where TR was after that trip.
     
  11. DI_Isokawa

    DI_Isokawa Well-Known Member

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    Remember that somewhere in Chad's ooga-booga email to Lori it was stated that once you reached a certain level the garments were not required anymore.
     
  12. nhmemorymaker

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    no consensus on the tarp, but definitely animals were buried and mixed. I know on other sites, people were definitely thinking they were animal bones in the orange tarp..but don't think we have any conclusions here...
     
  13. ReadyorNot

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    I really don't think any mg is controlled, to be honest. Even if the child was prescribed 5 mg which wouldn't be the case, they come in 1 mg pills which is not controlled.
     
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    Not sure if what the orange item was but it's been stated that human remains were not in any of the photos and correct procedures were taken

    Glad to have you back. Was curious on your thoughts in regards to MM and LV.

    Doesn't all of this create an even larger conflict of interest with Chad being defended by prior and MM now has to defend LV while not utilizing anything CD has told him?
     
  15. QuietStrength

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    Are you abroad (England, Australia)? I don't think risperidone is a scheduled drug here in US.

    That said, you have a conscientious doc if they're counting pills (and that's good, usually!). I've seen happen for pain management and ADHD patients (Schedule 2 meds in US - more highly controlled, usually only one month Rx dispensed at a time, depending on your state).

    But if it's not a controlled substance here, much easier to stockpile.

    Because it is so sedating, sometimes instructions offer flexibility in dosing, i.e. "Start with 0.25 and increase to xx as needed," which would also present the opportunity to collect enough for a toxic dose.

    I don't think the players in this tragedy are smart enough to scheme like this, but some "everyday" meds interact with enzymes that affect processing of risperidone and could potentiate the dose. (Completely unrelated example - some birth control pills potentiate some muscle relaxants - years ago had a doc send me home with... Zanaflex? Maybe? And I was SNOWED on it. Big time. Called back and told her I couldn't work while I was that addled, even on the itty-bitty dose. She doubled checked and saw I was on Yaz, too, I think, at the time. Yaz + Zanaflex = zonk.).

    But their combining risperidone with a CYP2D6 inhibitor for nefarious results would require compound/complex thinking that does not appear to occur elsewhere in their plans.
     
  16. nhmemorymaker

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    I dunno.... i am probably on thin ice here (pun intended), but my mind went to Buckaroo Bill's ice cream. Ice cream freezers?
     
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    I guess I missed any emails between CD & LVD. Do you mean the document that listed all the "Daybellion plan of ascension" with the zombie & dark spirit info?
     
  18. Diddian

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    That tells us Alex’s phone was at the Buccaroo Bill’s location, but it doesn’t tell us anything beyond that.

    It was dinner time. They’d just spent the day touring in the park and were likely hungry, so wanted to eat and to use the bathroom before heading home. If this were any normal family, it would be reasonable to assume that’s what they did. It’s what my own family used to do every time we went to YNP when I lived in Idaho Falls years ago as a child or when I went back to visit as a young adult (although we usually left the park early enough to dine in at West Yellowstone).

    So, I do not consider it unreasonable to assume they parked the vehicle in front of that closed establishment and Alex waited there while Lori and Tylee walked next door to pick up a takeout order or to use the restroom. Or, they parked there and Alex left his phone in the vehicle while he and Tylee walked next door to pick up the food or to use the restroom.

    ETA: Maybe Lori took the kids in to the use the bathroom and to pick up take out food and Alex stayed in the rig and made a phone call to CD. Let's hope LE is sitting on such info as that. Even better if the phone call is made from Alex's phone and some kind of video surveillance shows it is Alex who took the kids in to pick up the food and use the restroom, thereby indicating it is Lori who is on Alex's phone with CD the night before he burns and buries her daughter.
     
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  19. Spartygirl

    Spartygirl Verified Insider - Michael Vanzandt case

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    I just don't believe that is what happened to TR or the reason for his trip to Mavericks but that is JMO (I do not know, nobody knows right now)
    I do know that the family did NOT drink due to a news article when CV first married LVD and it was mentioned.
    I will agree with you that all bets are off with their religious beliefs once they got all wrapped up with CD, MG, JM and company and anything is possible.
    They all could have become drinkers since their beliefs did go out the window and they became cult minded monsters. IMO
     
  20. indicolite22

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    She even offered phone records as proof of contact, so she can't wiggle out of it and say it was on an earlier date.
     
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