IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #103

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  1. SeattleStew

    SeattleStew Well-Known Member

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    snapbridge.jpg

    I'm sorry if I am coming across dense. So, I get that "7 hours" is referencing how long ago the photo was taken before the receiver opens the message. (is that right??)

    It's the circle on the right side I don't get. Is it a countdown clock? Is it a timer? Is that where the 1-10 second viewing period is displaying? Thank you for your patience.
     
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  2. cluciano63

    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    You are still seeing way more detail than me...
     
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  3. Cutiekitty

    Cutiekitty Well-Known Member

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    It’s the amount of time the recipient has to view it till it disappears. You can screen shot it, which is what it looks like the recipient did.
     
  4. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Ain’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Taking the video and combining it with the physical description that law enforcement has put out, all I can say is that we’re not dealing with some finely tuned athlete here.
     
  5. nwmouse

    nwmouse Verified cheese addict.

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    You have to squint...:eek:
     
  6. SeattleStew

    SeattleStew Well-Known Member

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    Well, it looks like Mr. Hickman sold his business to a Financial Services Company, but that's okay. I found this from 2017:

    How to retrieve deleted Snapchat photos from iphone6:

    Run iPhone Data Recovery on computer and plug iPhone into computer with USB cable, and select the first recovery mode, “Recover from iOS Device” to scan your iPhone. Click “App Photos” to find Snapchat photos, to view all Snapchat photos that are deleted automatically (include sent Snapchat photos), then click “Next”.May 22, 2017

    Pretty sure LE already figured that out. I promise to move on from Snapchat talk.
     
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    Backstroke10 Well-Known Member

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    deleted - posted twice
     
  8. Backstroke10

    Backstroke10 Well-Known Member

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    LOL :D:p I don’t see anything either.
     
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    Theforeigner Well-Known Member

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    We know that Libby posted the snapchat 2:07PM
    A person close to Libby, watched the snapchat of Abby 7 hours after it was posted.

    That means the person watched the snapchat ca 9:07 PM

    SO... this person, close to Libby would at 9:07PM have know that Libby and Abby for sure was at the bridge ca 1 hour prior to Derrick, Libby's dad, had arrived at the meeting point ca 3:14PM.

    So , those close to Libby would have known by then that the girls probably was still pretty nearby the bridge area when Derrick was looking for them.

    I personaly do not understand why the called of the search that evening the 13th of February.

    Does anyone know for sure who it was that received Libby's snapchat of Abby on the bridge ?
     
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    It appears Delphi had not been faced with lost people in the past. A population of 3000, it’s doubtful they had large crews of either police or fireman working the midnight shift, definitely they’d not have 24/7 search crews or parks personnel on standby as it appeared most of the searchers were local volunteers. Therefore I’d presume officials had no other option but to call off the official search at midnight due to darkness, fatigue and risk of injury with plans to begin again the next morning if the girls didn’t contact anyone by then.

    The families have never, ever criticized the search efforts whatsoever.
     
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    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    Continuing to question why LE called off the search is, IMO, pointless. Dozens of people have offered reasonable and logical explanations as to why they did and why their protocol dictated that they did. People were still there even after LE called it off. If they'd continued having dozens of untrained folks canvassing the dark park into the early hours of the morning, it's very possible that the crime scene would've been compromised.

    It's a circular argument. We see this on every thread. What's done is done and nothing can go back and change that. The girls had been dead for several hours by the time the search was called off.

    The only people I've seen criticizing it are those who aren't involved with the case. The families have been nothing but supportive of LE's efforts.
     
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    Cutiekitty Well-Known Member

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    It was on her story.
     
  13. MistyWaters

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    A Snapchat photo taken on the bridge only proves where they were at 2:07. It wouldn’t have been automatically assumed they were still hanging around the bridge more than an hour later, as it appears they were expected to go back to the parking area where he’d pick them up.
     
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  14. tresir2012

    tresir2012 Oh! What a tangled web we weave....

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    I think that is my understanding now. The timer face representing 10 seconds. But what if the viewing is set at only 3 seconds is what I don't follow ?? Can you only view it the once? I'm dense too I guess.
     
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    tresir2012 Oh! What a tangled web we weave....

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    I'm sorry I don't know what you mean by "story" but it doesn't matter, I don't want to clog the board.
     
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    Ursamajr haunter of the woods

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    if the timer is set to 3 seconds the icon will stay the same but the bar will just spin around the icon faster. The point of the icon is to actually see the time running out.

    ETA: the app is minimal in size and is free to download if anyone wants to sleuth how it works.
     
  17. Theforeigner

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    Yes I understand that but someone watched that snapchat image 7 hours after Libby posted it, and made a screenshot of it at ca 9:07PM, that screenshot that we have a copy of with the "7h ago " at the upper left corner of the screenshot, and who was that?
     
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    I’m not in any way implying that I thought that those were my ideas, or that the reasons I gave were valid.

    However, quite a number of people think that they shouldn’t give more to LE than the law requires. Quite a number of people thinks that LE occasionally frames people, or accidentally contaminate evidence.

    The other ideas are more paranoid, but I’ve heard people express extremely paranoid ideas. (And I don’t deliberately run in those circles.)
     
  19. tresir2012

    tresir2012 Oh! What a tangled web we weave....

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    I think the foreigner means they would/should have known they couldn't have gone that far in an hour or so. Were family on Libby's Snapchat or only her friends?
     
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    Ursamajr haunter of the woods

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    I do not have the link handy but I am recalling there were mentions in the media that friends had seen the snap and saved it. LE would be able to see who Libby's friends were on the app and if LE were able to access the phone and app itself - they would see a list of people who actually viewed her snap.

    Edit: words
     
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    mtnlites President of the Imaginary Friends' Club

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    *raises hand*

    I'm paranoid and am one barrel of dried rice short of being one of those folks on "Doomsday Preppers." Paranoia isn't logical.
     
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