SC - Paul Murdaugh & mom Margaret Found Shot To Death - Alex Murdaugh Accused - Islandton #32

[Gardenista]

Is that a Capri Sun at 47:25?

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

This post lands at random.

Some posts have been removed. Stop the bickering and move on or there will be a loss of posting privileges.

Thank you.

 

[Luna20]

You said they " DH and AM probably have a connection at one or more."

So what is it? Did they probably have a connection to it or did they have a connection to it? Where is the proof?

He definitely went to rehab in Florida. Conveniently in another state where SLED could not get to him.

Probably [adverb]: ‘probably’ is used when you think something will happen or turn out to be true, but you’re not certain enough to say it definitely will. (Dictionary)

‘Probably’ has no form of proof, it doesn’t apply.

“Sunrise detox in Georgia” is what was said on the stand. My reference was directly to AM testimony. I’m aware of Florida, it’s where he was arrested but I wasn’t making a reference to what wasn’t in testimony nor to what was already known to the public.

 

[pittsburghgirl]

While anything is possible, for me it is not probable - it’s just too tight of a window and too coincidental for a third-party to get so lucky to find Paul and Maggie at the kennels alone when they weren’t even planning on being at Moselle that night, find them in the few minutes between Alex leaving the kennel and leaving the property to go to Almeda and using the same type of weapons the family owned. Add in Alex lying about that specific timeframe, why was that necessary for him? Only the killer knows that is when they were killed. He could’ve easily said we were all together at the kennel and when I left them they were alive. If he had been honest, it would have given LE a more accurate timeline, I believe he lied, because he killed them. I also believe that he had hired out the killing he would not have been anywhere near where they were killed. MOO

What Loveallmyhorsesdogsandcats said.

 

[Luna20]

Is that a Capri Sun at 47:25?

It looks like it to me.

 

[Luna20]

Let's hope Waters brings in a Medical Opiod Specialist, to give details on such doses.
Perhaps again, we'll find AM lies under oath.

Maybe that will be our Perry Mason moment. It would be great to have proof of what AM has or hasn’t done with the drugs. With the amounts we have seen referenced it warrants being looked into further.

 

[TeaTime]

Just watched body cam footage of the crime scene. Those officers believed that PM was a suicide. Wrinkle.

 

[rahod1]

While anything is possible, for me it is not probable - it’s just too tight of a window and too coincidental for a third-party to get so lucky to find Paul and Maggie at the kennels alone when they weren’t even planning on being at Moselle that night, find them in the few minutes between Alex leaving the kennel and leaving the property to go to Almeda and using the same type of weapons the family owned. Add in Alex lying about that specific timeframe, why was that necessary for him? Only the killer knows that is when they were killed. He could’ve easily said we were all together at the kennel and when I left them they were alive. If he had been honest, it would have given LE a more accurate timeline, I believe he lied, because he killed them. I also believe that he had hired out the killing he would not have been anywhere near where they were killed. MOO

He's the >>>ONLY CONFIRMED PERSON<<< present in the time frame of the killings, phantom *hit men* notwithstanding. This person then LIED about being there. That's the entire case in a nutshell. I rest my case.

 

[Arkay]

He's the >>>ONLY CONFIRMED PERSON<<< present in the time frame of the killings, phantom *hit men* notwithstanding. This person then LIED about being there. That's the entire case in a nutshell. I rest my case.

Yep.

Nothing further!

 

[Cindizzi]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1629674235814617088

 

[Pruddennce]

I was wrong, and reposted from another comment, SO SORRY! AM Is definitely Racist though, as he made up some sick story about some friend of one of his sons working for some LE going after Black Panthers-soo much BS, and just one of his stories to Deflect. Grr.

NO.

I will admit, AM is just about the best yarn-spinner and liar I've seen in awhile... he can tell tales about guinea fowls, house cats gone wild, dogs marking territory. He's got a tale for even the lamest subject... and he can hem n' haw, cry, stutter around, blow snot, and change the pitch in his voice to suit all the nuances in yarns he spins. I hope he hasn't spun these lies into wool that covers the eyes of the jurors.

jmo

dont forget the sunflowers and chickens just doing what they do.

 

[Gardenista]

Just watched body cam footage of the crime scene. Those officers believed that PM was a suicide. Wrinkle.

They did at first, there was testimony at the trial. It's why they picked him up.

 

[nannymo]

He's the >>>ONLY CONFIRMED PERSON<<< present in the time frame of the killings, phantom *hit men* notwithstanding. This person then LIED about being there. That's the entire case in a nutshell. I rest my case.

By his own admission on the stand "No one else was there!"

 

[TDoc72]

A thought about why the house at Moselle wasn't roped off as a crime scene. Look at this drone footage of Moselle ( it's in the 2nd half of the video) IF police were to tape off and secure the house they would also have had to tape off and secure the fields and woods. They would need a whole lot of people to secure all that real estate. They didn't have the personnel to do that. At some point they needed to make a decision on what they could secure and what wasn't possible.


Of course Alex calling every person he knew to come out to the farm didn't help. I don't know what the rules are for how big an area of a crime scene is limited to. Just seems like it wasn't feasible to secure the whole farm. Remember this place is out in the middle of nowhere. There aren't many officers in the local police force to call on to come out to the scene of the crime. Just thinking out loud here.

They only had to block the two entrances—the brick pillars one going to the house & the kennel one. Just don’t let anyone in. But they’re Murdaughs so…

A fake sick? Anything to stop trial just like all his excuses.

I really hope this is not true. I was thinking to delay the trial so the jury gets tired of it all (if they aren’t already). There are only 2 alternates left.

 

[LoveyluvsThurston]

I've heard much criticism about A/G Waters' examination of AM by other attorneys but I think it's because he did not do what attorneys are taught in law school and allowed AM to control his own story (testimony) instead of controlling AM and the prosecutor making himself the star.

IMO, I agree that AM is/was not the textbook defendant, and looking back, I think A/G Waters had two choices:

First, if Waters acted to control AM's response to his questions, he risked alienating the jurors that might like AM more than they like Waters.

Defendants like AM are very dangerous because they are masters at presenting themselves as both likable, and sympathetic. His financial crimes demonstrate this perfectly!

Second, Waters could give AM a long rope, and just let him ramble, and AM's own arrogance will soon tighten the grip. I think allowing AM to talk and talk resulted in AM no longer appearing so likable -- especially when you remember he's been charged with double homicide and he's using the folksy story and tone to manipulate you!

Ultimately, specific to AM's personality, I think Waters took the right approach here. MOO

Ding, ding, ding! I’ve assisted in court proceedings with a very experienced attorney over the years (granted- not criminal) and she often used the tactic of just giving some people that rope………….

 

[Pruddennce]

The could have ordered everyone off the property and had SLED or local LE stand guard on the road perimeter. They probably couldn't secure all sides but they should have done the road side and definitely allowed no one in any vehicles or structures. IMO it was a major fail that they didn't. Totally inexcusable. JMO.

I agree. in the first car dash interview that nite LE did ask him about weapons, gun he retrieved he told 911 about, asked if he had a list of all of his guns and he said no but could make one, asked what kind, he says we have all kinds..about 20-25...

I feel he was treated differently concerning the guns and locking down the property. or is it me as I do not live in an area thats heavily populated with the hunting sport nor people owning a cache of weapons for hunting. IMO the house should have been off limits considering he had a ton of weapons and at that moment in time LE had no confirmation of movements of AM, MM and PM and if this killer was originally in the house and took MM and PM down to the kennels.

 

[Iwondertoo]

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I really hope this is not true. I was thinking to delay the trial so the jury gets tired of it all (if they aren’t already). There are only 2 alternates left.

I thought there was only one alternate left? I googled it and can't find a source for how many are left.

I worry too about the jury surviving to the end of deliberations. Covid, personal circumstances... lots can happen.

Fingers crossed.

 

[sunshineray]

I think it's both and not elaborate at all. His mind snapped and it was the financials that worried him - because that was also his pill supply. The two are connected. He was finally hitting rock bottom. Jig was up. No money. No pills.

Like every addict, regaining access to his drug supply was paramount. I think he thought Paul and/or Maggie had some of his pills. They may have denied it. Maybe they flushed them down the toilet. That would make him mad.

It's all inter-related.

To me, the drug angle is very much in the mix.

IMO.

All you need to do is look at his mug shots and his countenance. Her looks like a druggie. AJMO

 

[justtrish]

I saw a comment online and now I can't unthink about it. lol

How did Alex know it would be important to lie about where he was at 8:44? If he left and it was all as normal until he went to Almeda then how did he know they were killed during the time he was there? He was gone so what if they were killed at 9:30.. what difference did it make if he was at the kennel at 8:44? He only had to lie because he knew when they died, if he didn't know then he wouldn't know that time was crucial.

 

[jbc]

Ding, ding, ding! I’ve assisted in court proceedings with a very experienced attorney over the years (granted- not criminal) and she often used the tactic of just giving some people that rope………….

Not without risk, though. Of course, we all remember that Magbanua got off first time. And, some jurors were sympathetic to Arias at the penalty phase - they believed the abuse. Splits both ways, I think.