Found Deceased UT - REMAINS FOUND - MacKenzie "Kenzie" Lueck, 23, Salt Lake City, 17 June 2019 #11 *ARREST*

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  1. Lillymac

    Lillymac Well-Known Member

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    I wondered if he tried to force SM and bondage and she told him no. In a rage he killed her.
    Fire was logical to get rid of her huge bag of clothes and luggage. I think doing the same with her was an after thought alternative.
    The irony, was he was already doomed by the lyft driver and the phone.
     


  2. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Yes. He’s an idiot.

    He probably felt like he needed his phone to continue texting with Kenzie as she rode in the Lyft.

    He still could have made up an excuse that it was dying, shut it off, and simply arrived early.

    He didn’t do that though.

    His biggest mistake was texting Kenzie in the first place, as that led to his discovery.

    For every smart move, he made a spectacularly stupid one.
     
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  3. Seattle1

    Seattle1 #LiveLikeLizzy

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    Yes.

    Free of charge, you can go to the SL County Assessor and not even need owners name -- just type in the home address and there you have it, all before your eyes.
     
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  4. Lillymac

    Lillymac Well-Known Member

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    Yes. Very helpful. Not hopeful, but helpful.
     
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  5. NYatheart

    NYatheart Well-Known Member

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    Mind blowingly stupid.
     
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  6. slcmike

    slcmike Well-Known Member

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    If you just go to the salt lake county tax assesor page, it shows you exactly who the owner is of every property, for free.
     
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  7. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    Yeah. They mentioned a “fresh dig.”

    I think he burned her body and belongings, dug a hole, and covered them up.
     
  8. katydid23

    katydid23 Verified Juanette

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    I forwarded to 1:44 to hear the pArt about the 'friend' who warned her about the perp.

    I am not sure how credible this person is. Others can listen and see what they think.

    From what I got, the man was 'visibly shaken' and crying and cussing and very upset, after attending the presser at the Police Station. He stopped to speak with the reporter and told her he didn't want to be identified, but he was 'an online friend' of ML's, and he knew about the suspect and he and ML had talked about him, and he told her he didn't have a good feeling about him.

    So it was not a real life close friend that had seen ML with the suspect, or ever met the suspect. So it has a bit less credibility for me.

    But I will say, that at the end of. the day, this guy was right when he said he felt the guy was bad news. :(


    ETA: by 1:44 , I mean 1 hour and 44 min in...fast forward
     
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  9. ochemnewbie

    ochemnewbie Well-Known Member

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    Damn. didn't know. It's amateur hour over here
     
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  10. MemPat

    MemPat The EARTH without ART is just EH.

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    It's pretty scary. You can find out addresses and the names of their families, past and present, home phone numbers and sometimes email addresses.
     
  11. margarita25

    margarita25 Hmmmm...sounds hinky, moo.

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    It makes you wonder...of course he knew his phone data could reveal this, which then possibly goes against premeditation...

    Here’s a question: it was stated his phone was in the same location within a minute. Do we know that this was his personal phone, or another phone he may have tried to hide? Is it possible LE is referring to a second, and what he thought was anonymous burner phone?

    I have some experience with this burner phone business and it is not always as anonymous as one might think.

    Just a thought.
     
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  12. Bits777

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    The reporter said this friend went to LE and told them of this that ML had confided concerns about AA to him. I guess until we have further info from LE that this friend did as he said it is all up to personal interpretation
     
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  13. WhimsicalWillow

    WhimsicalWillow All of my posts are MOO & accuracy not guaranteed

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    Can someone explain to me, why this despicable man would request, what the contractor referred to as a “gaudy hook 7 ft above” in the “sound proof” room project? What would be the purpose?
     
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  14. passionflower

    passionflower Just 1 tip to find a killer

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    I bet ML was exhausted, wanted a shower and sleep then play. He's not a SD by any means....disappointment, jealousy, rage all kinds of emotions and she probably was going to dump him and he knew it.JMOO
     
  15. Lillymac

    Lillymac Well-Known Member

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    Yes...everythings for sale!!
     
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    Isn't it odd he has a pitchfork?

    It's not as though he has bales of hay or big tumbleweeds to be clearing in that back yard

    And when did he buy that? Is there footage of him at a local hardware store ?
     
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  17. margarita25

    margarita25 Hmmmm...sounds hinky, moo.

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    Have you ever seen 50 Shades of Gray? Something like that maybe, to clasp the arms overhead?
     
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    thebedbug Well-Known Member

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    He wanted a sex/torture dungeon from which his victims could not escape or be heard. I don't think there is any other interpretation.
     
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  19. Whiteorchids

    Whiteorchids Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if she was unconscious while monster was having his way with her? Maybe even already deceased? Perhaps she woke up and freaked out with him on top of her. I'm sure he offered her something to drink when they got to his house perhaps a coffee as she was most likely tired that time of morning. drugged her with rufie or ectasy spiking her drink wouldn't take much to knock her out if your already tired.
     
  20. jbacon

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    Is the wondering about if she changed having to do with the SB/SD aspect of it, for you? Or if she knew him, (was comfortable enough wearing what she was wearing in the photos, no makeup etc) or both or either?
     
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