Discussion in 'George Zimmerman Trial/Trayvon Martin' started by Tricia, Jun 23, 2013.
So we agree :seeya:
I am saying that you would have a hard time proving you are in fear enough of your life to take potentially fatal action based on someone walking near you (you can put whatever emotional spin you want on it - stalking, following, but that's all that it amounted to - Zimmerman was walking near Martin).
Well IMO... The fact that GZ wasn't back in his car... Speaks volumes to me.
The fact that so far every witness testified to arguing.
Watching GZ on his "walk through" claim TM appeared out of nowhere...and launched an attack. Was laughable.
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but he wasn't watching he was following him and caught up w/ him, he didn't stay back and just observe where he was going
He got punched in the nose not shot.
I got tired of listening to the defense constantly ask DeeDee about her relationship with Travon. I got tired of listening to why she didn't attend the service, etc.... The value she offers is her phone call with Travon, that to me is a big piece of what happened. Her speech is slow and she is hard to understand, maybe she can only take in so much after that she seems to get frustrated. He kept on pounding her with questions I felt were not important, but then again I'm not a lawyer :rockon: I also believe what she had to say, I think she simply wanted to stay on point and that was her phone call with Travon, not other stuff. :twocents:
Zimmerman blew it out of proportion and reached for his very handy weapon.IMO
I posed the question to you.
Let me ask again:
Would you have killed Zimmerman if he was following you, as he allegedly did Martin? Would you have shot him after he said "What are you doing around here?"
if i was a teen followed by a man and was "scared for my life", i would've found a safe place to go (plenty of homes nearby!!) and/or called 911...
argument does not hold water for me.
I'm not even sure what the stalking posts are about, and don't have time to comb through this, but here is the Florida state statute that defines 'stalking' in a criminal sense.
I'm still confused. George isn't dead.
Sometimes it's exactly as it appears. Very minor superficial injuries. Nothing IMO that appears a fight for his life.
Not a mark on his hands... Just the slightest scrape on one of TM fingers.
I just finished watching GZ walk through again... He certainly was treated oddly by LE IMO
i can find it, it was in GZ original statement to police that while TM was on top of him puching him, beating his head into the sidewalk that TM reached down to his holster and grabbed fr the gun and there was a struggle, but he might have change that because there was a big problem, because where GZ said he was sitting on him, he couldn't reach his holster
Again, even GZ does not say that happened. He said TM asked if he had a problem and he said NO. IMO If he would have made the same statement he made to NEN that he didn't know TM and there had been burglaries in the area all of this may have been avoided.
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Yep. It has to be repeated. One incident is not repeated.
I listened carefully to GZ's voice on the 911 call and it did not sound at all boyish or childish. It was definitely semi-deep Adult Male to me.
It was testified to today and you heard that already. I posted the link above to what Florida defines stalking to be but here it is again. http://www.flsenate.gov/laws/statutes/2011/784.048
It was stalking according to the State of Florida and the perception of the young woman who testified today and described what TM said was happening. The fact TM was a minor only adds to that IMO.
In normal every day life Linda, yes. Known more than a few people like her.
Testifying in a high profile murder trial....Nooooo!
This is a video of GZ three days after the shooting...