ScarlettScarpetta
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Eddie alerts to *CADAVER* odour !!!
And blood.
Eddie alerts to *CADAVER* odour !!!
Eddie alerts to *CADAVER* odour !!!
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_PERSONAL.htm> The result from scientific experiment and research to date would tend to
support the theory that the scent of human and pig decomposing material is so
similar that we are unable to 'train' the dog to distinguish between the two.
That is not to say that this may not be possible in the future.
I'm not an expert on how to manage a sniffer dog, so I can't really comment on whether what Grime did was usual - but I assume that by making the video public he wasn't concerned about any lack of professionalism, and I haven't seen any negative criticism from others in the industry. (Please feel free to correct me here - I have not been studying this case long).
I would have assumed that his technique would have drawn heavy criticism from within the industry if he had done anything usual.
I've wondered at times if she wasn't simply taken into one of the apartments across the street adjacent to the car park. There is a quote from Silence of the Lambs "we begin by coveting what we see everyday." Casually watched from across the street all week.
Just my own opinion
..and on dried blood
...and it seems on the pig scent too.. ( just found this!)
From Marin Grime interview
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES_PERSONAL.htm
the dna was found in the cadaver sites.
Unless the McCanns had a pet pig, I doubt his alert was pig scent
> In training the dog has accurately alerted to a 1 cm cube of pork soaked in
petrol for 1 week and then burnt until only a residue remains.
Unless the McCanns had a pet pig, I doubt his alert was pig scent
Human remains ? Are you sure ? Was this recent remains . I never heard anything about human remains. Have you got any link to the that ?
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Not really... If they knew that all those 15 alleles came from the same person it would presumably be pretty high. But from what I understand they're saying the 37 alleles that they found are a mix of three to five people and they don't know which person contributed which alleles. Then it's not about the likelihood of finding that particular string of alleles that matches Madeleine but the likelihood of sampling three to five individuals and finding alleles that match Madeleine's. Let's say Gerry and Kate and the twins contributed their DNA into the mix. Half of Madeleine's DNA came from Kate, half came from Gerry, the twins would be about 25 % the same as Madeleine.
Since they don't know that all those 15 alleles that match Madeleine's came from the same person it could be that some came from Gerry's DNA, some from Kate's, some from the twins.
To complicate the matters, some alleles are rather common and are shared with a large percentage of the population so if there was a fifth person even that one could randomly have had some alleles in common with Madeleine even if they weren't biologically related.
We don't know what the dog smelled. IT could have been blood, decaying cells, WE don't know what the dog is thinking.
Except the one car is marked with tons of madeleine posters.
Sorry but these are not cadaver sites.
These dogs we know alert on the dry blood too from living humans.
But it's doing the exact thing that Grime says indicates that the dog has caught the scent. It's practically staring at the ceiling!
Once again, I have no training whatsoever with sniffer dogs. However, the very fact that this video was freely distributed to the public and faced no criticism from the media or the police suggests to me that Grime did everything a handler should do in that situation. Don't forget a video like this would likely draw the attention of people who work directly with dogs - the people who would have the real knowledge to dismiss his methods if they believed they would yield inaccurate results.
So what about the cadaver dog then, alerting to cadaver scent? Oh, so we're supposed to discount the dogs too? Not only are we supposed to discount the DNA, but the dogs too.
The fact is that Madeleine is gone. We cannot discount that fact. A child goes missing under highly suspicious circumstances, still not found, and a specially trained elite dog alerted to there being a dead body in the apartment and in the car. Are we to imagine that there was someone else's dead body in those places? Since the DNA is inconclusive? Does that mean that there was another dead person that someone brought to the villa and to the car, just to leave the scent there? Then they took that body back away.
Well in this case the police and legal system didn't come to that conclusion. They didn't ever charge the couple. Not all cases are the same.
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I think that it was a rental car poses lots of problems. What if the car hit an animal? Ran over a dead animal? I wonder if that can cause a hit??
It could have been.
But they all made it out of Portugal alive.
The DNA was found in the cadaver sites.
No the dog alerted to something. We don't know whose dead body if there was a dead body or what scent it was.
We don't know that Madeleine is gone. We have no idea what happened to her but that she was taken out of that room that night.
I think that it was a rental car poses lots of problems. What if the car hit an animal? Ran over a dead animal? I wonder if that can cause a hit??
If someone cut themselves and shed biologic material that degraded in the heat??
It is the important part if you ask me.
So basically you are discrediting a U.K.A.C.P.O. accredited police dog training instructor & a 'Special Advisor to The U.S. Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Investigation, in relation to their Canine Forensic Program' after watching a 5 min. edited clip on You Tube ??
WOW !!!!!