Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #81

[PommyMommy]

Missing woman disappears after road trip with boyfriend as mom reveals message to authorities

Gabby Petito, 22, set out on a road trip with her boyfriend in a converted camper van in early July to tour National Parks, but she disappeared in late August and her family hasn't heard from her in more than two weeks. Now, her mother is pleading for help finding her daughter.

Nicole Schmidt, Petito's mother, said that the last verbal conversation she had with her daughter was on Aug. 25.

"I don't know if she left Grand Teton or not," Schmidt said. "I did receive a text from her on the 27th and the 30th, but I don't know if it was technically her or not, because it was just a text. I didn't verbally speak to her."

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The couple stopped in Grand Teton National Park on Aug. 25, Petito's last known location, before a planned trip to Yellowstone. They were traveling in a 2012 Ford white van that was converted into a camper.

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A spokesperson for the Jackson Police Department said that an "attempt to locate" call was recently filed for Petito. The Suffolk County Police Department is also investigating the case. Suffolk County PD declined to comment on Sunday.

Petito is 5’5" and has blonde hair and blue eyes. She has a triangle tattoo with flowers on her left arm and a "Let it be" tattoo on her right arm.

Anyone who has seen Gabby or has any information on the case should contact the Suffolk County Police Department at 1-800-220-8477.

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[TL4S]

First, I would search all the places he could be. I would probably enlist the help of family and friends.

BUT - It depends on the circumstances. I have been through this myself a number of times with a young adult (at ages 16,19 and 23). The thing is on the first two occasions, it was as I stated above, the third warranted direct assistance from LE (in our area, this is something that LE excel at), because by then, he had a mode of transport and could have been in a wider area.

It really does depend not only on the circumstances, but also on that young adults previous MH history and their normal activities.

Yes. And SB did state that it was normal for BL to go hiking/camping for days at a time. I'm guessing this was his typical coping behavior, but because he was extra upset this time, his parents went looking for him and mentioned it to SB, who then mentioned it to the FBI. There was nothing secretive about it, imo.

According to SB, the authorities (namely the FBI) were aware BL had left from the very start, and were told his location, as well. It appears to me that the Ls were cooperative in regards to their son.

For me, it will all come down to whether or not the Ls knew GP was dead already. There were no charges yet, no body, and the only thing they knew was whatever BL had told them.

 

[cady]

Bear with me here. It is not out of the question that perhaps the L's knew or suspected that Brian left home with a gun. The lawyer was asked if he did and responded "unknown". Maybe the L's were afraid of how he may USE a gun, if he had one....like maybe if he felt hunted, by his parents or anyone, including the police, he would use it on his pursuers and/or himself. That could be a reason for Chris not wanting to go into the reserve to find him, but expecting the police to do that. jmo

 

[SMK777]

Here's when Brian Laundrie's autopsy results will be revealed

 

[cady]

Yes. And SB did state that it was normal for BL to go hiking/camping for days at a time. I'm guessing this was his typical coping behavior, but because he was extra upset this time, his parents went looking for him and mentioned it to SB, who then mentioned it to the FBI. There was nothing secretive about it, imo.

According to SB, the authorities (namely the FBI) were aware BL had left from the very start, and were told his location, as well. It appears to me that the Ls were cooperative in regards to their son.

For me, it will all come down to whether or not the Ls knew GP was dead already. There were no charges yet, no body, and the only thing they knew was whatever BL had told them.

FBI did not inform NPPD about any of this until Friday, the 17th. In BL's "distraught" state of mind, time was of the essence. Starting on Monday evening. jmo

 

[cottonweaver]

FBI did not inform NPPD about any of this until Friday, the 17th. In BL's "distraught" state of mind, time was of the essence. Starting on Monday evening. jmo

yes but SB claims that nppd ought to have known this, that it would have been passed on by fbi

but sb also says a lot of things: upset, distressed, distraught, not in a good state of mind, ( so many different interviews but we naturally don't learn what exactly he's distressed about)
On Banfield:
SB: no he didn't seem suicidal, not outwardly. Alert coherent, no indication of suicide. (Grieving was misspoke,poor choice of words, last interview of the day etc)



People:

"He was out of sorts at the time between when he came home and when he went to the hike and the day he went for the hike, he was extremely upset," the attorney explains. "Brian was very upset and distressed. Mr. Laundrie tried to prevent him from leaving the house in that condition and he couldn't, and Brian insisted on going out for the hike."
Bertolino said Laundrie was "depressed, distressed, and upset" after returning to Florida — "however you would describe somebody who is just not appearing to be in a good state of mind," he added. Brian Laundrie's Parents 'Have No Inkling' What Might Be in Notebook Found Near Remains: Lawyer


Banfield link

 

[CharlestonGal]

FBI did not inform NPPD about any of this until Friday, the 17th. In BL's "distraught" state of mind, time was of the essence. Starting on Monday evening. jmo

I'm not sure NPPD would have been of much help at that point anyway. The park was already flooded by Sep 14th. From the media thread:

“Chris went out that night and looked for him,” the attorney said. “It was wet, it was rainy. Chris couldn’t see anything. It was dark.”

Bertolino said Chris and his wife Roberta went back to the park the next day, Sept. 14, and saw the Mustang with a “summons” for being parked overnight. He said the couple spent several hours walking around but couldn’t go off trail because the park was relatively flooded."

WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 8/25/21, MEDIA, MAPS *NO DISCUSSION*

 

[Nikynoo]

Found Deceased - WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #80
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Found Deceased - WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #80

Can you explain exactly what you think the L's or anyone else should have done and support your reasoning why? I am rather confused by your posts on this theme.

 

[cady]

yes but SB claims that nppd ought to have known this, that it would have been passed on by fbi

but sb also says a lot of things: upset, distressed, distraught, not in a good state of mind, ( so many different interviews but we naturally don't learn what exactly he's distressed about)
On Banfield:
SB: no he didn't seem suicidal, not outwardly. Alert coherent, no indication of suicide. (Grieving was misspoke,poor choice of words, last interview of the day etc)



People:

"He was out of sorts at the time between when he came home and when he went to the hike and the day he went for the hike, he was extremely upset," the attorney explains. "Brian was very upset and distressed. Mr. Laundrie tried to prevent him from leaving the house in that condition and he couldn't, and Brian insisted on going out for the hike."
Bertolino said Laundrie was "depressed, distressed, and upset" after returning to Florida — "however you would describe somebody who is just not appearing to be in a good state of mind," he added. Brian Laundrie's Parents 'Have No Inkling' What Might Be in Notebook Found Near Remains: Lawyer


Banfield link

True, NPPD SHOULD have known, but they didn't, FBI didn't tell them, SB didn't tell them, L's didn't tell them and their own Chief said he knew where Brian was.....(meaning, mistakenly, that he was home, LOL). Still, in spite of NPPD's muck-up, somehow, they should have been informed but Brian was not a POI not a suspect and not a "missing person". The least the L's could have done was ask for a welfare check on Brian, where they believed he was. But, they didn't want to talk to NPPD. They could have asked for that through their attorney, but they did not. I just don't fault NPPD for this part of the mess, despite their mistaking Mom for Brian. The point isn't who is at fault, the point was that Brian needed to be located.....pronto. jmo

 

[Nikynoo]

. The point isn't who is at fault, the point was that Brian needed to be located.....pronto. jmo

SBBM - Thank you!

So, if the L's had reported Brian as a missing person to NPPD on Monday or say, Tuesday morning. What would have happened?

 

[cady]

I'm not sure NPPD would have been of much help at that point anyway. The park was already flooded by Sep 14th. From the media thread:

“Chris went out that night and looked for him,” the attorney said. “It was wet, it was rainy. Chris couldn’t see anything. It was dark.”

Bertolino said Chris and his wife Roberta went back to the park the next day, Sept. 14, and saw the Mustang with a “summons” for being parked overnight. He said the couple spent several hours walking around but couldn’t go off trail because the park was relatively flooded."

WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 8/25/21, MEDIA, MAPS *NO DISCUSSION*

Chris couldn't have been in the park at night unless he parked his car outside the gate and walked in. The gate closes at sundown. jmo

 

[Damarna]

Someone probably mentioned this but - is it possible the Ls knew exactly what BL planned? Or at the very least suspected. Couldn’t face the reality of him admitting that he killed Gabby. Shame, horror, embarrassment, fear…. So just let him go off into the reserve and do what he has to do? Thought crossed my mind.

 

[CharlestonGal]

True, NPPD SHOULD have known, but they didn't, FBI didn't tell them, SB didn't tell them, L's didn't tell them and their own Chief said he knew where Brian was.....(meaning, mistakenly, that he was home, LOL). Still, in spite of NPPD's muck-up, somehow, they should have been informed but Brian was not a POI not a suspect and not a "missing person". The least the L's could have done was ask for a welfare check on Brian, where they believed he was. But, they didn't want to talk to NPPD. They could have asked for that through their attorney, but they did not. I just don't fault NPPD for this part of the mess, despite their mistaking Mom for Brian. The point isn't who is at fault, the point was that Brian needed to be located.....pronto. jmo

But NPPD knew he was gone. They watched him leave in the mustang on Sep 13th. They ticketed the mustang at the park (same jurisdiction) on Sep 14th. They watched him return in the mustang on Sep 15th. So they at least knew he was gone from Sep 13 - thru Sep 15 and didn't seem too concerned about it. Meanwhile, SB had several conversations with the FBI on Sep 12, Sep 13, and Sep 14th during which he told them BL had not returned. Why would SB or the L's provide this same information to the NPPD when they were already talking to the FBI about it?

If I were already working with the FBI concerning an investigation about my daughter, I would not think I needed to call the city and county LE as well. jmo

 

[cady]

SBBM - Thank you!

So, if the L's had reported Brian as a missing person to NPPD on Monday or say, Tuesday morning. What would have happened?

Given what L's believed about where exactly Brian would be, they could have instructed NPPD about where to look and NPPD would have had the equipment to get in there and look. Probably on Tuesday or Wednesday as there needs to be some wait time for a person to be deemed "missing". I suppose L's would have done that through their lawyer, though, since they had already rebuffed NPPD on the 11th. jmo

 

[kittythehare]

Brian is in Grand Teton
https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1453732691329781775?s=20

 

[Nikynoo]

Chris couldn't have been in the park at night unless he parked his car outside the gate and walked in. The gate closes at sundown. jmo

Perhaps he did just that? I suspect if CL was worried, a closed gate would not keep him out.

 

[Nikynoo]

Given what L's believed about where exactly Brian would be, they could have instructed NPPD about where to look and NPPD would have had the equipment to get in there and look. Probably on Tuesday or Wednesday as there needs to be some wait time for a person to be deemed "missing". I suppose L's would have done that through their lawyer, though, since they had already rebuffed NPPD on the 11th. jmo

That is not what I meant. WOULD LE have acted on that MP report, bearing in mind, Brian was not a POI at that time? What process does LE go through when a person is reported missing in that area?