ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 11

[ChatteringBirds]

This tragedy seems to be breaking news:

Police said they responded to King Road for a report of an unconscious person. When officers arrived, they “discovered four individuals who were deceased...”

4 Idaho college students killed in 'targeted attack,' no suspects in custody

Four University of Idaho students were found dead on Sunday, officials said.

abcnews.go.com

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Moscow ID Police Departement Facebook page

City of Moscow re King Street Homicide

Detectives are looking to develop context for the events and people involved in the four murders at 1122 King Rd in Moscow, Idaho. Anyone who observed notable behavior, has video surveillance, or can provide relevant information about these murders:

• Telephone: 208-883-7180
• Email: tipline@ci.moscow.id.us
• Digital Media: fbi.gov/moscowidaho

 

[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

Admin Note > Horse's mouth:

LE has said the skinned dog is not related.

Detectives are aware of a Latah County Sheriff’s Office incident of the report of a skinned dog and have determined it is unrelated to this incident. Contact Latah County Sheriff’s Office for further details. Additionally, Detectives are also aware of a Moscow Police incident of the report of deceased animals left on a resident’s property. This was determined to be wildlife activity and unrelated to the incident.

Members have been advised before not to discuss it any further. If you still wish to discuss it further, call the Sheriff's Office but don't post about it here or you may lose posting privileges.

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[YaYa_521]

Continue here.

 

[Audrina]

MPD Press Log 11/22/2022

www.ci.moscow.id.us

The residents of the town seem on edge - multiple calls about suspicious persons. I’m assuming more than normal.

Also to note, someone was going around taking down the posters with the tip line information.

Why don't police take reports on any of these?

 

[steeltowngirl]

I think if I was a student there, I’d be sleeping with a gun. And I’m not a gun owner. But I believe guns are banned on-campus, except for CCW permits. Not sure if allowed in off-campus housing.

 

[Audrina]

22-M10204 Suspicious Person/Circumstance

Incident Address: E 2ND ST & S MAIN ST

MOSCOW ID 83843

Disposition: ACT

Time Reported: 14:10

Cad Comments:

A male is walking around taking down the posters with the tip line information.

Officer responded. No report.
CivicAlerts.aspx

 

[Chestnutsunfish]

Saw someone comment on previous thread about how terrifying it is that the killer may have showered there and cleaned themselves up.

My question is what do you think is more risky/likely for them to have done?

Stayed and showered risking running into someone or someone potentially having heard and called 911.

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Left covered in blood or at least with their bloody clothes in tow and risk being discovered with evidence on them, or leaving a trail of blood/scent?

I am at a loss.

 

[Hiandmighty]

Derick Todd Lee left at least one murder scene during the day bloody and no one saw It.

 

[Sourdough]

Long time lurker of the forum, first time poster.

I agree with the posters who thought it was an odd statement from the press conference. It was along the lines of "what is not in a photo can be is as important as what it shows". (paraphrasing here, not a direct quote).

I wonder if a crime scene photo shows something is missing from the apartment? Maybe an item that belonged to one of the victims was taken as a sort of trophy?

JMO

 

[ShadyLady]

Saw someone comment on previous thread about how terrifying it is that the killer may have showered there and cleaned themselves up.

My question is what do you think is more risky/likely for them to have done?

Stayed and showered risking running into someone or someone potentially having heard and called 911.

Or

Left covered in blood or at least with their bloody clothes in tow and risk being discovered with evidence on them, or leaving a trail of blood/scent?

I am at a loss.

I think it was planned. Escape route, time of attack, change of clothes, disposal of clothes, weapon, etc etc.

 

[MikeHammer911]

Tpen: #10 is closed, so I reply here. I agree that some people are heavy sleepers, but in this case it's two individuals at the same time. The noise and screaming during a fight regarding life and death must be quite noisy and different from normal noise.

 

[x_files]

Derick Todd Lee left at least one murder scene during the day bloody and no one saw It.

Sometimes luck plays into it.
If no one was around and no one has RING cameras, he was undetected esp if wearing dark clothes vs white clothes.

 

[shineon77]

When it comes to the calls to J- as a former college kid, years ago, this honestly seems normal. Esp. with an ex. You call a bunch of times, drunk, don't get an answer and have your friend call. May seem weird but definitely not. I think there is some motive with a random stalker who met one of the woman at the restaurant they worked at. I've had experiences similar to a stalking like this in college. Combine that with the social media presence- Most of them didn't have "private" profiles on IG or TikTok, so anyone can view or comment. Also, if X did try and defend herself, you would think this person has some cuts..and they would see that in interviews which is why people have been ruled out. I feel so bad for everyone in this.

 

[L.laricina]

So a thought about the importance of video and the "what you don't see being as important as what you do see."

LE can use exterior surveillance cameras to track a subject's route through an area. It takes time, but imagine 10 houses in a row, each with a doorbell camera pointing to the street. A subject running down the street appears on the first 6 cameras, but not on the last 4. This shows that the running subject did not continue on that route. They may have gone into one of the buldings, gotten into a vehicle, or changed direction. If they changed direction you would want to check the cameras (if any) on all of the possible routes from the point of the last camera that caught an image of the running subject.

Obviously, a resident would only know what was on their camera, so having video from as many cameras as you can is important, even if there is nothing on your own video.

 

[x_files]

Why don't police take reports on any of these?

They probably are understaffed and overwhelmed.

 

[CuriousGeorga]

Hypothetically speaking, if someone confesses (or has already) would LE keep that under wraps until they can confirm with forensics, locate the weapon, etc? There are details only the unk will know so I understand LE not sharing everything.
I feel like a confession is always announced immediately and then confirmation comes after. "Making a Murderer" comes to mind. May he fold under the pressure and guilt.

 

[Lalalacasbah]

Was that last photo of them posted on social media? Wonder if that was a trigger somehow.

Killer may have had a plan for months before but acted on it that night maybe from a trigger. Douglas Garland planned for months then acted the day when realizing victims were leaving town. He had everything ready to go, just waited for the right time.