ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 16

[ChatteringBirds]

This tragedy seems to be breaking news:

Police said they responded to King Road for a report of an unconscious person. When officers arrived, they “discovered four individuals who were deceased...”

4 Idaho college students killed in 'targeted attack,' no suspects in custody

Four University of Idaho students were found dead on Sunday, officials said.

abcnews.go.com

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Press photo album (compilation courtesy of WS member cujenn81)

Moscow ID Police Departement Facebook page

City of Moscow re King Road Homicide

Detectives are looking to develop context for the events and people involved in the four murders at 1122 King Rd in Moscow, Idaho. Anyone who observed notable behavior, has video surveillance, or can provide relevant information about these murders:

• Telephone: 208-883-7180
• Email: tipline@ci.moscow.id.us
• Digital Media: fbi.gov/moscowidaho

 

[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

Please read The Rules (linked in my signature), and continue discussion here.

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No sleuthing or insinuations/accusations against anyone who is not officially named a POI/suspect by LE.

 

[Sillybilly]

Admin Note > Horse's mouth:

LE has said the skinned dog is not related.

Detectives are aware of a Latah County Sheriff’s Office incident of the report of a skinned dog and have determined it is unrelated to this incident. Contact Latah County Sheriff’s Office for further details. Additionally, Detectives are also aware of a Moscow Police incident of the report of deceased animals left on a resident’s property. This was determined to be wildlife activity and unrelated to the incident.

Members have been advised before not to discuss it any further. If you still wish to discuss it further, call the Sheriff's Office but don't post about it here or you may lose posting privileges.

Thank you.

 

[Sillybilly]

The following Johnny Law youtube was originally posted by Mayboy1998 earlier today but because it was not a podcast host we were familiar with and we did not have time to view it in its entirety, it was removed. Having now had time to view it, it is being approved on a one-time basis because it does seem to provide an excellent analysis of the layout of the house, where individuals may have been sleeping, and it speaks to the location of the red liquid in relation to the overall layout of the house.

 

[Sillybilly]

Thread is open again.

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[Sillybilly]

Thread 13, post #977 has the pic with obvious berries on the tree right next to the deck.

Sorry, can't get it to link.

We don't quote post numbers because those can change over time due to Mods having to remove posts.

The following will help everyone know how to quote a post from elsewhere and then your link will not change due to moderation:

How to Quote a Post from Another Thread

 

[Sillybilly]

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[Sillybilly]

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Stop bringing rumors into this discussion, and stop stating opinion as fact.

There is no approved source to support that EC was found in the hallway.

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[YaYa_521]

Continue here.

 

[crax.t]

Maybe one of the victims was wearing a smart watch or other wearable tech?

Another point, maybe some of the victims took medications or used devices at a certain time before bed? Possibly even meds for sleep which could've made fighting back even more difficult? Just speculating.

that's actually a super solid point because if someone had a smart watch on the heartbeat tech is incredible these days and could give a near precise window of death.

 

[Megnut]

I think it was “something that is not there”. Could be as simple as a jacket should be hanging on a rack if the killer said he stayed at home but his jacket wasn’t there in the time slot. Or simply disappeared after murders. Or the car not at the parking lot (but should be). Or, simply, a huge knife that disappeared from a frat? (Even I have a fixed blade cooking knife although I am not sure it would work for murders).

It also could be some case where the explanation doesn’t match the situation. Like, there is a shoulder/elbow trauma incurred during “running”, or cuts on the pinky/below it from “cutting vegetables” or “cat scratches”.

Or no pictures of a potential suspect at a party or club he claims to have been at or been at at that time.

JMO

 

[Seattle1]

In my experience it is pretty common for girls to drop out of sororities junior/senior year. It is a huge monetary and time commitment at a time when most college kids are starting to become increasingly focused on their future careers. This is not uncommon and would not mean that they were shunned socially from members of Greek life or their own sorority

This is very interesting. My Greek experience was not like that at all. If anything, a girl would drop out before initiation but rarely afterwards. In fact, I can never think of it happening at all when I was an active member. Now, girls may have shown up to events less often and not been as active (myself included), but they didn't officially "drop out" with a formal letter, etc. Each campus is different and Greek life varies from one university to another, of course. MOO

Generally, statuses available to undergraduates include active, inactive, non-continuing, and disaffiliated. Given membership is expected to be for life, perhaps "drop-out" is not the correct term. And most also have provisions applicable to upper-class members who may be excused and/or granted approval for a change from active status for a variety of reasons without "dropping out" (i.e., disaffiliating). Nonetheless, completely agree each campus is different and Greek life varies from one organization to another. MOO

 

[Justice101]

What's the chance the perpetrator has come on line here or other investigative crime websites?

 

[Saquish]

In 2021 Idaho had 36 homicides. Where does the necessary experience come from in solving murders?

 

[whiterhino]

that's actually a super solid point because if someone had a smart watch on the heartbeat tech is incredible these days and could give a near precise window of death.

What also gets me is that even in this day and age, this house had seemingly zero security! Personally as someone old enough to have a young daughter at college and having been one myself, I'd have some kind of security. Door/window alarm, motion sensor or camera... They didn't have any of these things in place. Maybe someone noticed?

 

[Strawberryjellyfishb]

Sorry if this has been mentioned before, I haven't caught up on the threads yet. Could it be possible that this person use to live in Idaho/attend UI and was part of the inner circle of this group, then transferred, dropped out or moved away(for example to WSU), but had some sort of fixation or jealousy with the 4 and lurked their Instagram until for reasons only known to them, drove them to murder?

 

[crax.t]

What also gets me is that even in this day and age, this house had seemingly zero security! Personally as someone old enough to have a young daughter at college and having been one myself, I'd have some kind of security. Door/window alarm, motion sensor or camera... They didn't have any of these things in place. Maybe someone noticed?

maybe. i also think that moscow as a community is very like a dont-lock-doors community? thats JMO because i remember reading things from people at the beginning of all of this that used to/currently live there and they mentioned that it wasn't uncommon to just leave doors unlocked and home surveillance wasn't super popular. also not to mention it's college party house.

hopefully this event sparks something where students within the community take more precaution

 

[OneCrabbyDiva]

ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 15

how do you think perp got to scene? walked there or drove?

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I'm sorry, having trouble with the "quote" feature of a closed thread.

Regarding the above post, and how they were able to narrow down the times of death, if any of the victims had a fitbit it would record a spike in heartrate or physical activity. MOO. Edited to add, any kind of activity tracking watch.

I also wonder about them having an Alexa device that might have been indadvertently triggered to listen and record data.

 

[crax.t]

ID - 4 University of Idaho Students Murdered - Moscow # 15

how do you think perp got to scene? walked there or drove?

www.websleuths.com

I'm sorry, having trouble with the "quote" feature of a closed thread.

Regarding the above post, and how they were able to narrow down the times of death, if any of the victims had a fitbit it would record a spike in heartrate or physical activity. MOO.

absolutely. i hope that's how they figured out such a small window because that's a huge key. JMO