Found Alive WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot, 15 Oct 2018 *Arrest* #39

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  1. Sjm_qc

    Sjm_qc Well-Known Member

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    Great post.

    May I add: we do not know, and I keep emphasizing it, what - if any - alarming “issues” JP may have had or shown, NOR do we know how his parents dealt with them, or whether they successfully or unsuccessfully sought help.
     
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  2. ab01

    ab01 "What is done in the dark always comes to light"

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    Anybody else think jtp May have been on unemployment compensation from his first job and was filling out applications to fulfill requirements set by the program?
     
  3. Lillymac

    Lillymac Well-Known Member

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    I agree with your sentiment. Would seem a lifetime to me.,!!! But, factually I was wondering if someone else might have spotted the car. Guess not or we would have heard about it.
     
  4. gitana1

    gitana1 Verified Attorney

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    Apparently some are saying that's a rumor. It was stated by someone in one of the articles you linked!

    Apparently there is no evidence for that though anywhere else so it might be a rumor. However, it does look like he doesn't look anything like his parents or his siblings to me. Interesting.
     
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    BlinkOfAnI Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for bringing over! I agree with original poster's comment and and yours! While I have no answers to this specific case I have seen others involving 18 and over where parents have said they have asked for help, begged for help. I once had a young man sit in my office who could not get his medication bur knew he needed it. He tried so hard to be patient while I tried to help. I could see anxiety increasing in his eye. leg movements while he tried to remain calm. The Judge had ordered him to get help. I called everyone, everyplace, but with no insurance, SSI/SSD, medical card. or whatever there was no help. It broke my heart when he walked out the door. I couldn't help him. He tried to tell me I couldn't and so did his parent's because they had tried for years, the resources weren't there. 2 weeks later he was in jail again for assault. Not knowing the circumstances of JP's case I cannot say whether available, improved resources would have helped. I can only say that as long as we ignore those in need especially those that are willing to get help we as society will reap the consequences. Forgive the rant.
     
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  6. Deerrun

    Deerrun Well-Known Member

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    Well imo, it's part of the control. Not knowing where she is to me is part of the mental torture and control he had over her. Not saying I am right, just saying....It could also be that he wanted to stay away from his house until he could make sure police wouldn't show up. He did not know he got away with it yet. Remember he kept the loaded shotgun by the door for 2 weeks just in case per msm article.
     
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  7. PommyMommy

    PommyMommy #ShinelikeShanann

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    Yeah, it would have been super risky to leave her alone on a regular basis. But he probably would have just worked a day or two. :rolleyes:
    MOO
     
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    MesquiteO21 Well-Known Member

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    You know, with certain interviews Fitz did i really was wondering if he was purposely giving false info....but i couldn't really see a point, even if he was hoping to slip a perp up. i hate to say it but JTP seems smart enough to figure out if LE was deliberately giving false info. Plus what a headache and time waster to have to sort through so many tips for something you know is false.

    But now that we have read the complaint, we see that dude probably was not only 5 feet in the house...i haven't looked at the layout but i'd bet the bathroom isn't within 5 feet of the front door. So...Fitz remains a bit mysterious to me.
     
  9. Rubiconbob

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    Exactly, I think he was looking for only child female to get ...and found one.. coulda spotted her at age 11 or 12.. he wouldn’t say..

    They had dog and dad that didn’t buy bull crap and he only made it by 45 seconds..

    He had to know 6/7 people in house he’s screwed.

    I’d sure hate to think he used his moms bus route info searching for kids but wouldn’t put past him...

    I agree, verify everything he says and assume he’s full of it.
     
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    I see what you are saying, and I would agree that there isn't really a reason to trust everything he says. But the part about approximately 4 minutes in the house pretty much has to be true. I mean, he probably didn't time it out with a stopwatch so it could be off by a minute or two. But between details provided by Jayme in the criminal complaint, the 911 call, and the police arriving he couldn't have been in there for more than 5-6 minutes.
     
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  11. Lillymac

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    And guess what...never found it!!!!
     
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    In other article it was said the his mom remarried just 2 months ago. Did JP go to the wedding, leaving Jayme imprisoned under the bed for many hours?
     
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    maybe. I'm still trying to fit in the neighbors timing of hearing the 2 gunshots. I'm not going to simply believe JP. Now if Jayme has a way of knowing how long I'll go with that, but I would imagine with the fear she was in it seemed like eternity.
     
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  14. Lillymac

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    I thought his brother and he look alike and he definitely has his father's nose. jmo
     
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    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    I just think it’s unlikely, especially considering the fact that it appears he hadn’t given her captivity much thought.

    His adrenaline would have been running high, and I’m sure he wanted to get home as soon as possible.

    He had a kidnap victim in his trunk, he’d be focused on not getting caught.
     
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    Waiting on the @thedude to figure that one out!
     
  17. Sjm_qc

    Sjm_qc Well-Known Member

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    BBM: this was erroneous information, since corrected by a very diligent WSer then eventually by MSM. His father paid off the mortgage. He did not sign it over to the bank.
     
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    girlhasnoname Well-Known Member

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    Haa! At least he's consistently undependable. :p
     
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    Most definitely.
     
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    sumzero Well-Known Member

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    Good luck. ;o)
     
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