Maybe not a girl.
They said in the PC it was a girl.
Maybe not a girl.
Was he trying to look like Peter Pan? That hairstyle is so bizarre!
The journaling really throws me, well many things do, but allowing the kids to journal, so weird. I assume the parents read the journals? Did the kids write about their abuse? Anyone have any insight to this aspect of the case?
It's horrendous. I think it's easy for some people (not the people here, but the general public) to forget that some of these children are adult human beings who, in another life, could have had children, homes and jobs of their own by now.
It's been freaking me out people referring to some of the pictures as looking 'normal' or the children 'seeming happy'. I am the same age as the oldest child, and if she entered my friend group looking as she did in the photos I would assume she either had a severe eating disorder or some type of long term health condition affecting her size. Either way, I would be very concerned. It should be clear to everyone, and a way not to minimize the abuse suffered, to accept the fact that these children have likely been abused and neglected their entire lives.
At nearly 30 years old I have my own apartment, a fulfilling job, and I'm getting married this year. It hurts my soul to know that the oldest child - this poor woman - has been infantilized by her own parents, and now by the world. What a tragedy.
I believe the lewd act was committed against the 8th child, who also appears to be the child
who contacted the authorities. Looking over the charges and a few other posts this is what Im piecing together.
Of course, that could be a lie but YEESH! the cheapest yearly pass you can buy is over $300 a year EACH...yet they wouldn't FEED their own children. I can't even......
This. That the mother seemed perplexed by the investigators presence shows a very severe lack of insight, whether it be due to Intellecutal Disabilty , or something else. It stands out to me. I realize that DT & LT attempted to unshackle 2 of the children before the police could see the abuse shows that they new right from wrong which matters forensically regarding intent. But I still see a lack of insight with the smirking, spitting, and being perplexed which could point to various different factors regarding her intellecutal capicity and or mental illness. (Not legal insanity) They are different,.
Of course, that could be a lie but YEESH! the cheapest yearly pass you can buy is over $300 a year EACH...yet they wouldn't FEED their own children. I can't even......
Like a lot of people here, Ive been glued to this tread since it broke.
But there is something that is getting me a little stressed out (and it is making me a bit upset so maybe I need to give myself a timeout) and its this very specific idea said again and again that perhaps DT is on the autism spectrum. Its been very specifically said to be autism. And I know that no one is suggesting that this is why he is a monster... again, I know that no one has said this! However, it pains my heart to hear people specifically identifying (or specifically suggesting) him as being on the spectrum. Where is there ANY proof, any documentation, any specific traits that one can see from the photos and videos that suggests he has autism? Just being book smart, being an engineer and being aloof and not having a lot of friends does not necessarily mean he has autism.
There are no MSM reports that say it, that quote it.
Most people I know with autism are wonderful, loving, sweet sweet people. I know a lot of them.
If I could ask a favor, I would ask that we wait before we specifically identify a mental impairment on either of these vile horrible monsters of parents.
And if it comes out that he does have a diagnosis of ASD, Ill eat crow.
Thank you. Rant over.
Irvine,CA
^^^All of this!! We have 5 kids and babies are great and all but I absolutely love when theyre older and start getting interested and excited to learn about specific things, 5 year old kiddos current obsession is raccoons and she has learned like 97,000 facts about them and she shares them with everyone. Part of this evenings plan is baking cupcakes with our 3 and 5 year olds, this morning writing out with them that it makes 16 cupcakes, we have 7 people in the house so how many will each person get, etc.. In depth, insightful conversations with the teens about politics, social issues, college/career/future plans and so forth.
These poor kids situation is just completely unimaginable to me, Im just so very glad that they were able to make a plan and execute it. Then of course with the history filtering in Im totally shocked and angry that they were able to slip through the cracks for so many years.
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ABC World News showed some pics as well. From what I can remember, it was a drawing of a person with the name 'josh' wrote beside it, dirty kitchen and bathtub.ABC Nightly News is showing home from Texas
I couldn’t tell about the hands on my phone but two things broke my heart as I watched this again - how hard the oldest daughter appears to be trying to have a good time and make this day special for her parents and how all three older girls lose their balance at various times.
I want to rip the monsters’ faces off. To have these wonderful, sweet children and try to break them the way they did. [emoji174]
I agree. After looking at the charging document, it looks like the charges are listed in the same order as the age of the victim. The names are partially redacted, but not enough if you ask me. Also, there is a specific time frame that is covered for the lewd acts on or about 11/16/2012 through and including 11/15/2013.I believe the lewd act was committed against the 8th child, who also appears to be the child
who contacted the authorities. Looking over the charges and a few other posts this is what I’m piecing together.
I couldnt tell about the hands on my phone but two things broke my heart as I watched this again - how hard the oldest daughter appears to be trying to have a good time and make this day special for her parents and how all three older girls lose their balance at various times.
I want to rip the monsters faces off. To have these wonderful, sweet children and try to break them the way they did. [emoji174]
http://abc7.com/support-for-perris-torture-victims-pouring-in-from-around-world/2967628/
CORONA, Calif. (KABC) -- More than $60,000 have been raised for the 13 siblings allegedly held captive by their parents in Perris, and the donations continue to pour in from around the world.
The Corona Chamber of Commerce hosted its monthly breakfast on Friday. Before it began, a basket was passed around to collect donations for the Perris victims.
Chamber CEO Bobby Spiegel calls the 13 children and young adults, "the marvelous 13."
"I just want the children to know there's people in the world that love them," Spiegel said...........
I wonder if they qualified for group rates? Also sometimes a two day pass is almost as much as a yearly as we found out at a water park.
ETA: I didn't want to dismiss your thoughts about feeding the kids. I think something happened after these photos that caused the food starvation/schedule whatever to escalate.