ID - Doomsday Cult Victims - Joshua Vallow - Tylee Ryan - Tammy Daybell - Charles Vallow - *Arrests* #70

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Emi said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1648794805076631554

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648794807328976896

https://twitter.com/x/status/1648795181876129792
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April interprets it as Lori planning on a divorce from Charles but Lori had already told Zulema that she'd poison him with pills if the castings didn't work.
Lori tells April that Charles will have to look after JJ from now on ( even though she's planning to kill Charles)

At the same time- spring 2019- Chad is discussing with Zulema, all his casting out processes ( including the notes on eg burning of the body to deter a new evil spirit in the 2 minute window. It's in the Zulema testimony April 14th 2023)
 
cottonweaver said:
That sounds plausible. So that would be mid July 2019 ( when Lori called Insurance & discovered she wasn't beneficiary)

Looking back at Zulema's testimony - Chad seems to have decided JJ was going to die early, at least by 'early August 2019' which fits with your theory. ( Testimony also has Lori with a plan to kill Charles, as early as March 2019)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1646970106952704001

otoh, much earlier, by Feb 2019, Lori is already 'done with JJ' (ambiguous ofc)
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Yep! I think the catalyst for this was Lori receiving it knowing that she was going to receive the life insurance for Joe Ryan. I think that was unexpected seeing as they divorced acrimoniously so long ago. I think that was the light bulb moment for Lori.
 
'Around 2015, Lori read Chad Daybell's Standing in Holy Places series of books, reportedly becoming "obsessed" with them. (In 2016, the Vallow family moved back to Arizona. In the fall of 2018, Lori and her friend Melanie Gibb attended a "Preparing a People" event, where Lori was introduced to Chad for the first time.)'

en.wikipedia.org

Killings of Tylee Ryan and J. J. Vallow - Wikipedia

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Niner said:
Summary of tweets for Wednesday, April 19th - State witness: Mike Douglass, forensic accountant with FBI / Part 2


Nate Eaton
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NEW THREAD: Back in the courtroom. Jurors are being brought in. Douglass remains on the stand.

Douglass says the final payment on the Jeep stopped on Sept. 1, 2019 because of lack of funds in Tylee's account.

Douglass runs through a timeline of JJ from the time Charles died to the time JJ died.

The jury sees a document showing deposits made to Lori's BBVA bank account a month after JJ and Tylee died. Tylee's payments were Oct. 23 , Nov. 27, Dec. 24 (all 2019) and Jan. 22, 2020. JJ's were Oct. 16, Nov. 20, Dec. 18 (all 2019) and Jan. 15, 2020.

Lori's payments were Oct. 16, Nov. 20, Dec. 18 (all 2019) and Jan. 15, 2020.

Douglass runs through a timeline of key events in Lori's life during 2019.

A lot of information on the timeline is duplicate details from the previous timelines.

Douglass shown an exhibit displaying Venmo activity. Lori had two Venmo accounts with multiple funding sources that changed between banks during 2018 and 2019.

Venmo noted failed attempts to transfer funds on Lori’s account in 2019. A new account on Tylee’s Venmo was added on Sept. 10 and used until the end of 2019.

Tylee and Lori often sent money to Colby on Venmo. After Tylee died, both of Lori’s Venmo accounts ceased. Tylee had a new bank account added to her Venmo after her death and money was sent to Colby.

Douglass says Lori made multiple attempts to purchase malachite rings on her accounts. As he says this, Lori is taking notes at the defense table.

When asked what Douglass found on Chad Daybell’s bank accounts, he says, “it was more of what I didn’t find.” He references the flight purchases for Chad. They were made with Lori’s accounts.

Chad bought a phone at the Rexburg Walmart on Sept. 18, 2019. That’s the same day Lori received SS funds, according to Douglass.

Douglass reviews a timeline for the jury and mentions several flights Lori bought for Chad using her credit cards. Alex also purchased flights for Chad.

Tammy’s life insurance increase was requested Sept. 8, 2019. Douglass says after Tammy died, Chad made most large purchases including a family trip to Knott’s Berry Farm.

Douglass says Chad filed life insurance claims within days of Tammy’s death. He attempted to refinance his house on Oct. 8, 2019. Life insurance payouts were deposited into Chad’s account on Nov. 1 and Nov. 16.

Douglass says during the search of the Chad’s property between 9:50-10 am, there were there transfers of $8,000 each from Chad’s Mountain America bank account to three of his kids. The transfers occurred as officers were searching his grounds. Around $4,400 was left in the acct

*three transfers

Douglass says tickets were purchased to Knotts Berry Farm right after Tammy died. Rawlings has no further questions for Douglass.

Jim Archibald says he has no questions for Douglass. He is dismissed from the witness stand but Rawlings says they may call him at a later date.

We are having an early lunch. Court resumes at 12:30.


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Chad didn't transfer funds to all of his children.
 
Lori told AR she knew it was Ned Scheider who had taken over CV's body because he was SHORTER?!!! OMG, some of this stuff that comes out of LVD's mouth is just hilarious.

Another one I noticed when Zulema testified Friday was the special doctors in Texas:

11:48 a.m. Lori said this was a powerful demon and the castings were not working. Lori said Charles moved to Texas because there were doctors to help people who were possessed by demons and they could help keep the bodies alive. Alex was aware of all of this, Zulema says.

11:46 a.m. Lori moved to Texas, but she asked Zulema and the other women to be on a conference call for another casting so Hiplos could be removed from Charles. Christina, Nicole, Melanie Gibb, Melani Boudreaux, Lori and Zulema participated in this casting. Zulema says several castings were done on Charles during this time.

11:45 a.m. Lori said Ned had been removed, but now a more powerful demon had possessed Charles, and this time it was a demon “expert” named Hiplos that had done the same things for hundreds of years.

www.eastidahonews.com

DAY 10 | LIVE UPDATES: Alex Cox's widow says Chad and Lori Daybell taught demons needed to be bound or burned - East Idaho News

LIVE UPDATES FROM THE LORI VALLOW DAYBELL TRIAL Here are the sketches from today. 3:23 p.m. Thomas has more cross-examination, but questioning is done for the day. The jury is being dismissed. No court on Monday, but we will resume Tuesday at 8:30 a.m. I’ll post the sketches and audio when we...
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CROSS-EXAMINATIONS SO FAR UPDATE!
Kay W - Defense asked why she wanted LVD to raise JJ in the first place*
Brandon B - Defense tried to raise doubt about why MP was divorcing him, whether he'd really seen what he thought he saw with the Jeep
R. Hermosillo - Defense asked whose weapons were in garage***; pointed out that LVD was in HI when TD was killed***
J. Powell - Defense pointed out that he couldn't hear what CD & LVD were discussing; pointed out that LVD was in HI when TD was killed***
Melanie G - Defense wants entire testimony struck; asks about LVD's church participation, things she did for JJ*; asks about religious beliefs**
Zulema P - Defense asks about religious beliefs**
Colby R - Defense asks about church participation, things LVD did for her kids*
A. Werther - Defense asks who called 911 and clarifies that JJ & TR were both in car at Burger King stop
S. Yncan - Defense asks if AC was arrested after CV's death & if the witness statements were consistent
April R. - Defense asks if LVD's beliefs had changed from 2016 to 2019**; asks about LVD's church participation*

* "But she's a great mom" defense
** "But CD brainwashed them!" defense
*** "But CD and/or AC were acting on their own!" defense
 
www.independent.co.uk

Juror says Lori Vallow case meant he could ‘put a face to evil’

Vallow convicted of the murders of her own children Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow and conspiracy to murder husband’s first wife Tammy Daybell
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
Mr Daybell wired thousands of dollars to his own family as police searched his property for the children’s bodies.

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Oh this is going to sink CD’s ship IMO!
 
DAY 1 - MON APR 10
- LESLIE BLAKE: Opening statements for State - "The defendant used money, power, and sex to get what she wanted. It didn't matter what it was." [summary]
- JAMES ARCHIBALD: Opening statements for Defense - ""The evidence will show Lori was a kind and loving mother." [summary]
- KAY WOODCOCK (grandmother of JJ): Witness for State - CV's life insurance (Feb 2019) [summary1], JJ's disappearance (Aug 2019) [summary2], wedding items on CV's Amazon account (Oct 2019) [summary3]
- BRANDON BORDEAUX (ex-husband of LVD's niece): Witness for State - attempted shooting from Jeep (Oct 2019) [summary]

DAY 2 - TUE APR 11
- RAY HERMOSILLO (Rexford PD): Witness for State - Jeep surveillance, welfare check & search warrants (Nov 2019) [summary1], discovery of bodies (Jun 2020) [summary2, summary3, summary4, summary5] - continued into Day 3

DAY 3 - WEDN APR 12
- JARED WILLMORE (Madison Co. Sheriff): Witness for State - CD & LVD prison phone call on day bodies were discovered (Jun 2020) [summary]
- JOE POWELL (Fremont Co. Sheriff): Witness for State - surveillance on CD & LVD (Nov 2019), exhumation of TD's body (Dec 2019) [summary]

DAY 4 - THUR APR 13
- MELANIE GIBB (friend of LVD): Witness for State - CD & LVD's initial meeting (Oct 2018), CD & LVD's shared beliefs & affair [summary1], CD & LVD's phone call with MG (Dec 2019) [summary2], MG & DW's visit to LVD's on last day JJ was seen (Sep 2019) [summary3, summary4]
- NATHAN DUNCAN (Chandler PD): Witness for State - shooting of CV (Jul 2019), CD's call to mortuary (Jul 2019), CD's blessing to AC (Jun 2019) [summary1], "CV"'s email to CD & CV's emails to TD (Jun 2019), texts from CV to LVD (Jul 2019), texts between CD & LVD about CV's insurance (Jul 2019); AC's "2manykids" text to LVD (Sep 2019) [summary2] - continued into Day 5

DAY 5 - FRI APR 14
- ZULEMA PASTENES (friend of LVD & wife of AC): Witness for State - CD & LVD's initial meeting (Oct 2018), CD & LVD's shared beliefs & affair [summary1]; "Idiot can't do anything right by himself" on night TD was shot at (Oct 2019); "I think I'm being their fall guy" (Dec 2019) [summary2, summary3] - continued into Day 6

DAY 6 - TUES APR 18
- COLBY RYAN (son of LVD): Witness for State - financial issues [summary1]; prison phone call between CR & LVD (Jul? 2020) [summary2]
- MIKE SAARI (Social Security Administration): Witness for State - social security payments [summary]
- CHUCK KUNSAITIS (Rexburg PD): Witness for State - bank statements [summary1], prescriptions, flights [summary2] - continued on Day 7

DAY 7 - WED APR 19
- MIKE DOUGLASS (FBI): Witness for State - timelines of financials [summary1, summary2]
- SCOTT COWDEN (Chandler FD paramedic): Witness for State - AC did not provide CPR to CV after shooting (Jul 2019)
- ARIEL WERTHER (Chandler PD homicide): Witness for State - following up with LVD after CV's death (Jul 2019)
- SANDRA YNCLAN (Chandler PD homicide): Witness for State - interviewed LVD & TD after CV's death (Jul 2019)
- APRIL RAYMOND (friend of LVD): Witness for the State - LVD & TR's stay in HI, LVD was "done with JJ" (Feb 2019)
 
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