OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #57

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    PIKE COUNTY, Ohio —

    A town woke up one morning to the horror that eight people were brutally killed. The Rhoden family suffered an unthinkable loss eight times over on one late April night in 2016. And years would go by before an arrest was made, and the massacre of an entire family still haunts Pike County, Ohio to this day. The murders of the Rhoden family still haunt small Ohio community


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    Updated Timeline - Rhoden Family Murders - updating 2/5/2019

    November 2001

    George Wagner III indicted on 3 felony counts for receiving stolen property
    Pike County: Father accused in Rhoden massacre faced prior felonies

    2009
    George Wagner III and Angela Wagner charged with felony tampering with evidence. Charges dismissed by Pike County Prosecutor Rob Junk, who doesn’t recall the reason why.
    Pike County: Father accused in Rhoden massacre faced prior felonies

    2012 - AG DeWine issued press release announcing LE had discovered “a major marijuana grow site”in Pike County with suspected ties to a Mexican drug cartel. During the discovery, 1200 plants were destroyed by investigators and two abandoned campsites were located, which they believe had belonged to Mexican nationals.

    From <Media & Timeline NO DISCUSSION - Pike Co, OH 8 Family Members Murdered>

    2013

    November 2013
    Birth of daughter Sophia to Jake Wagner and Hanna Rhoden. They lived together much of the time until 2015, at Hanna’s home or the Wagner’s
    Pike County investigation: 8 deaths and multiple arrests were tied to one key factor — child custody

    2014

    Jake Wagner began hacking, etc. victims’ phones, computers and social media accounts according to indictment
    https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...Prosecutions/PikeCountyMurderIndictments.aspx

    2015

    March 2015

    Jake Wagner and Hanna Rhoden end their relationship
    Exhaustive investigation leads to break in Pike County murder case

    May 2015

    Frankie and Chris Rhoden, Jr get in a fight with another driver at a local demolition derby.
    Violent Rhoden Brothers Met a Violent End in Ohio Massacre

    August 2015
    Hanna Rhoden becomes pregnant with her second child, Kylie

    2016

    January 2016

    Wagner 4 begin plotting to murder the Rhoden family, per indictments
    https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...Prosecutions/PikeCountyMurderIndictments.aspx

    February 2016
    Box of marijuana discovered at Piketon Post Office, investigation leads to discovery of "shatter" operation

    March 21, 2016
    Chris Rhoden, Sr. purchases property and home at 3122 Union Hill Rd. for his ex-wife Dana Rhoden, where she lived with their children Hanna Mae Rhoden and Christopher Rhoden, Jr.
    Properties released to family of Pike County victims

    Two to three weeks prior to murders: Leonard Manley claims Jake Wagner and his father tried to get Hanna M Rhoden to sign documents giving custody of her daughter Sophia to Jake Wagner.



    April 3, 2016

    Rita Newcomb forged custody documents related to Sophia, daughter of Jake Wagner and Hanna Rhoden
    Billy Wagner to answer to charges for Rhoden, Gilley murders in Pike County

    https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...ecutions/PikeCountyAdditionalIndictments.aspx

    April 7, 2016

    Purchase made at Walmart – photo and receipt later retrieved by BCI and presented as evidence for murder indictments

    Jan 17, 2019 Discovery Evidence Summary

    April 15, 2016

    Wagner family alleges Hanna Rhoden dropped off her daughter Sophia at their home. This conflicts with other reports that Jake Wagner picked up Sophia around 10:30 pm April 21.

    Sunday, April 17, 2016

    Hanna Rhoden gives birth to Kylie Rhoden at Southern Ohio Medical Center, Portsmouth, OH

    Get Access

    Monday, April 18, 2016

    Photos of Hanna Rhoden in hospital with daughter Sophie and new baby Kylie

    Graves: My wish for the Rhoden babies

    Tuesday, April 19, 2016 - Woman sentenced in road rage incident court case involving Chris Jr.

    From <OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #5>

    Wednesday, April 20, 2016

    Thursday, April 21, 2016

    8 am: Dana arrives at work - Hillcrest Nursing Home, Peebles, OH

    10:30 pm – Jake Wagner is reported to have picked up Sophia from Hanna Rhoden, a day earlier than usual

    11pm: Dana leaves work - Hillcrest Nursing Home - 14 miles away per CNN

    Approx 11:20 pm - Dana arrives home

    Friday, April 22, 2016

    1 am: April Manley, sister in law of Dana Rhoden, allegedly exchanges text messages with Dana. This information has never been confirmed by LE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf4ObgRJ_Xo[/video

    2 am: James Manley later told by LE that he received a text from Jake Wagner, ex-boyfriend of Hanna Rhoden. LE has never confirmed this.
    Pike County Murders: Father says it’s like ‘tearing the scabs off us’

    Between 1 am and 7 am - the following were murdered

    • Christopher Rhoden, Sr. (age 40): Nine (face, torso, extremities).
    • Dana Rhoden (age 37): Five (head).
    • Hannah Gilley (age 20): Five (head)
    • Christopher Rhoden, Jr. (age 16): Four (head).
    • Clarence “Frankie” Rhoden (age 20): Three (head). Two were “contact wounds” as indicated by soot from the gun on his skull.
    • Gary Rhoden (age 37): Three “contact” wounds (head).
    • Hanna Rhoden (19): Two (head).
    • Kenneth Rhoden (age 44): One (right eye).

    Rhodens shot in head at point-blank range

    7:15 am: Bobby Jo Manley, sister of Dina Rhoden, arrives at Chris Sr.'s property to feed his animals. She says she was with two friends, identities have varied, not confirmed.

    7:15 to 7:40?: She uses a key to unlock the front door and sees the bodies of Gary & Chris Rhoden Sr. Exact time not known

    Pike County: 'I was not leaving those babies in there'


    7:49 am: Bobby Jo calls 911 Ibid.
    Audio of call




    7:53 am: PCSO Dep. Music and Dep. Chandler are dispatched to 4077 Union Hill Road in response to the 7:49 am 911 call from BJM. Ibid.

    Approx 7:55 am: Billy Jo Manley runs next door to trailer of Frankie Rhoden & Hannah Gilley. Door is locked, she hears toddler inside, asks him to open the door. She then discovers the bodies of Frankie & Hannah. She takes the children outside to her car.
    Ibid.

    7:15 - 7:53 am: Sometime after discovering the bodies, Billy Jo Manley calls her brother James Manley. He and his son go to the home of Dana Rhoden and discover she is dead. According to his wife, James doesn't go further into Dana's home, though he can see her legs and hear a baby crying.
    Ibid

    8:07 am: Deputy Chandler arrived "at a neighboring residence where he was flagged down by a subject. Deputy Chandler advised that he needed multiple ambulances due to multiple down at multiple residences."

    8:12 am: Deputy Music, Deputy Ball, and Major Evans all arrived "on scene" where they were approached by [Redacted] (later revealed it was James Manley) who stated: "there are two more dead people here." [Redacted] pointed to the residence at 4077 Union Hill.

    From <OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #5>

    8:07 am - 8:17 am: Time of death declared for victims.

    8:21 am: PCSO request for assistance sent to BCI

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/22/us/ohi...g-pike-county/
    OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #5

    12:13 pm: at least 4 BCI Crime Scene Unit trucks are seen at the intersection of Hwy 32 and Union Hill Road headed towards the crime scenes. (Source: tweet including a photo made by Gannett Ohio reporter @saranealeigh)

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/22/us/ohi...g-pike-county/

    OH - Pike County: 8 people from one family dead as police hunt for killer(s) #5

    1:26 pm Friday: Donald Stone calls 911 to report discovery of Kenneth Rhoden’s body

    LISTEN: 911 calls from Pike County mass killing

    Audio of call
    911 call: April 22 in Pike County. 1:26 p.m.

    1:36 pm -- Ohio AG Mike DeWine issues a press release: 7 people murdered in "execution-style killings"
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/04/22/us/ohi...g-pike-county/

    1:49 pm - Time of death listed for Kenneth Rhoden

    http://www.chillicothegazette.com/s...-family-death-certificates-released/85051602/

    Saturday, 4/23/2016

    Abt 3 - 4am - LE arrives at Bobby Jo Manley's residence to question her; 5 others also questioned
    Pike County Murders: Father says it’s like ‘tearing the scabs off us’

    Kenny Rhoden (cousin) calls 911 in Greenup Co, KY stating he is being chased by a green Chrysler in South Shore, KY.
    'I fear for my life,' Rhoden family member tells 911 | Ohio News

    Businessman Jeff Ruby offers $25,000 reward
    Jeff Ruby offers $25K reward for Pike Co. killer

    Sunday, April 24, 2016

    Autopsies performed by Hamilton County Medical Examiner in Cincinnati, OH
    https://mgtvwcmh.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/pike-county-final-autopsies-redacted.pdf
    http://nbc4i.com/2016/09/23/attorney-general-releases-autopsies-for-rhoden-family-members/

    Thursday, April 28, 2016

    Funeral for Gary Rhoden, South Shore, KY
    Family honors first of 8 Pike County victims at service


    Jake Wagner files for custody of Sophia, age 2, his daughter with Hanna Rhoden

    Court docs: Suspect filed for custody of child at heart of Pike County investigation days after slayings

    Friday, April 29, 2016

    Businessman Jeff Ruby withdraws his reward of $25,000. News reports say he was advised not to discuss the withdrawal
    Cartel concerns behind Jeff Ruby's withdrawal of $25K reward

    Saturday, April 30, 2016
    Funeral for Hannah Gilley in Ottway, OH
    Hannah Gilley, 20, laid to rest near her childhood home

    Tuesday, May 3, 2016
    Funeral for Rhoden family - Chris Sr, Dana, Frankie, Hanna, Chris Jr. and Kenneth
    http://www.daytondailynews.com/news...always-scar-this-town/yRPTKlTHsLqHb2kAg3M2lN/

    Thursday, May 12, 2016
    Trailers of family members Chris Rhoden Sr, Frankie Rhoden & Kenneth Rhoden were sealed and moved to storage at Hasdell Chemical Co. in Waverly, OH. Dana Rhoden’s trailer was moved later, on Sunday, May 15.

    http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...nty-mobile-homes-moved-crime-scenes/84288652/

    Friday, May 13, 2016

    PCSO/BCI conducts a video interview of Jake Wagner

    OH Pike County: 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested#41

    Tuesday, May 17, 2016

    AG Mike DeWine claims Rhoden family trailers and homes were moved to preserve evidence and to protect the family’s possessions that remain inside. Real property and remaining outbuildings, etc. are released to surviving family members.
    Properties released to family of Pike County victims

    Friday, May 25, 2016

    PCSO/BCI conducts a video interview of Jake Wagner

    Jake Wagner appears in court, some evidence turned over to his attorneys
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachments/upload_2019-1-8_20-5-19-jpeg.163299/

    Friday, May 27, 2016

    Death certificates released to news media
    http://www.chillicothegazette.com/s...-family-death-certificates-released/85051602/

    Times of death (preliminary) :

    8:07 am Chris Rhoden, Sr, Gary Rhoden

    8:11 am Frankie Rhoden, Hannah Gilley

    8:17 am Dana Rhoden, Hanna Rhoden, Chris Rhoden, Jr.

    1:49 pm Kenneth Rhoden


    Thursday, July 21, 2016

    Pike County Sheriff announces a $10,000 reward, 10 weeks late, after it was approved
    Rhoden murder reward announced - 10 weeks late

    Tuesday, July, 26, 2016
    Coroner, attorney general refuse to release final autopsies in Pike County killings

    Coroner, attorney general refuse to release final autopsies in Pike County killings

    August 2016

    Jacob Wagner, father of Hanna Rhoden's older daughter, lists his family farm for sale. Location is 260 Peterson Rd, Peebles, OH

    Sometime after murders and before May 2017 raid on Wagner properties, it is determined through testing that JW is not the father of Hanna Rhoden's second child.
    http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...-away-scene-rhoden-family-massacre/101600436/

    Monday, August 8, 2016

    Columbus Dispatch files lawsuit against Pike County Coroner’s office saying it is improperly withholding final autopsy results.

    Coroner, attorney general refuse to release final autopsies in Pike County killings

    Friday, September 9, 2016

    PCSO/BCI conducts an audio interview with George Wagner III

    Jake Wagner appears in court, some evidence turned over to his attorneys

    Friday, September 23, 2016

    Ohio AG releases heavily redacted final autopsy reports

    Ohio AG releases redacted Rhoden autopsy reports

    Attorney General releases heavily redacted Pike County autopsy reports

    Wednesday, October 5, 2016

    PCSO/BCI conducts an audio interview with Angela Wagner
    Ibid

    2017

    Tuesday, February 21, 2017

    Ohio Supreme Court agrees to hear lawsuit case of Ohio newspapers seeking to view unredacted final autopsy reports
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/ohio-court-will-hear-debate-on-autopsies-of-8-family-members

    Tuesday, March 10, 2017
    Jake Wagner's Peterson Rd house sells for $165,000

    Thursday, April 13, 2017

    PCSO/BCI conduct an audio interview with Jake Wagner
    https://local12.com/news/local/jake-wagner-appears

    Friday, April 21, 2017

    Rhoden family members plead with public for tips to solve murders
    https://www.dispatch.com/news/20170...members-plead-for-tips-to-solve-massacre-of-8

    Saturday, April 22, 2017

    Pike County LE place a GPS tracking device on truck owned by James Manley, brother of Dana Manley Rhoden. LE claims it was placed there because the truck was related to an aggravated murder case

    http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...ng-pike-county-massacre-case-court/101773632/

    Friday, April 28, 2017

    11:35 am - James Manley finds and removes tracking device and destroys it

    http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...ng-pike-county-massacre-case-court/101773632/

    Wednesday, May 3, 2017

    PCSO/BCI conducts an audio interview with Jake and Angela Wagner

    https://local12.com/news/local/jake...rt-some-evidence-turned-over-to-his-attorneys

    Approx. May 5, 2017

    Jacob Wagner asks ___ Brown if he can store some trailers on his property. He tells him his farm is sold and he and his brother have found good paying jobs “up north” and are moving there. He needs to move out of farm for new owners. JW drops off 3 trailers at the Brown property “a week before the search

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...assacre-more-search-details-emerge/101713414/

    Monday, May 8, 2017

    PCSO/BCI conducts audio interview with George Wagner III
    https://local12.com/news/local/jake...rt-some-evidence-turned-over-to-his-attorneys

    Tuesday, May 9, 2017
    Jake Wagner stopped his activities related to intercepting, wire, oral or electronic communications, per Count 20 of his Indictment

    https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...Prosecutions/PikeCountyMurderIndictments.aspx


    May 10, 2017
    BCI search at 260 Peterson Rd

    May 5 - May 12, 2017
    Sometime after dropping off 3 trailers loaded with furniture and personal possessions, Jacob Wagner and family leave the area. Later posts on FB show photos of them in a location resembling areas in Alaska or Canada.

    Friday, May 12, 2017

    Abt 11 am - PCSO, BCI, Adams County SO, Ohio Dept. of Corrections STAR and other Ohio LE agencies conduct a search at properties related to Jacob Wagner & family.

    260 Peterson Rd, Peebles, OH - farm formerly owned by Wagner's parents, where JW resided with his mother, father, brother, daughter Sophia Rhoden Wagner and daughter of his brother George.


    Unlimited Motors, St Hwy 41, Peebles, OH - Auto repair business and farm of ___ Brown, friend of J Wagner.
    Ibid

    Saturday, May 13, 2017
    LE team PCSO, BCI) raids Flying W Farms. Franklin County Sheriff's office assists. Franklin County claims their SWAT team accompanied the raid, saying they had an arrest warrant. FCSO later retracts the statement. A neighbor of Flying W Farms who witnessed the vehicle caravan entering and leaving the property is interviewed, claiming there was a SWAT vehicle and an ambulance present.
    http://www.cincinnati.com/story/new...elative-charged-evidence-tampering/101747576/

    http://www.cincinnati.com/videos/news/2017/05/16/rhoden-investigation-intensifies/101759968/

    From <https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/media-timeline-no-discussion-pike-co-oh-8-family-members-murdered.306329/page-8>

    PCSO/BCI conducts an audio interview with Angela Wagner

    https://local12.com/news/local/jake...rt-some-evidence-turned-over-to-his-attorneys

    Tuesday, May 16, 2017

    PCSO/BCI conduct audio interview with Angela Wagner

    https://local12.com/news/local/jake...rt-some-evidence-turned-over-to-his-attorneys

    May 18, 2017
    BCI searches a Ford Excursion, retrieves items for testing and submitted as evidence

    Jan 17, 2019 Discovery list

    June 8, 2017

    BCI searches trash at Days Inn, Jackson, OH (presume this hotel where GW3 and family stayed)

    https://html2-f.scribdassets.com/5zbix3y0ow6tp04l/images/7-f66b74f151.jpg

    June 19, 2017
    AG DeWine and Sheriff Reader make public appeal for information about Wagner family

    https://www.dispatch.com/news/20170...n-about-family-regarding-pike-county-slayings


    June ? 2017

    Wagner family leaves Ohio to eventually end up living in Kenai, AK



    July 2017

    Wagner family has some kind of possible real estate transaction in Montana

    (Need link to discovery document)

    July 13, 2017
    Search of property on Bethel Hill Rd, Piketon, OH; near Flying W Farms.
    (link to discovery document) Jake Wagner Supplemental discovery evidence list Jan 17, 2019

    Thursday, December 14, 2017
    Ohio Supreme Court rules against Columbus Dispatch and Cincinnati Enquirer in lawsuit to release unredacted final autopsy reports
    https://www.timesgazette.com/news/22296/ohio-high-court-shields-autopsy-reports-in-rhoden-case

    2018

    April 15, 2018

    Wagner trailer search (location unknown)
    Jan 17, 2019 Discovery list

    April 19, 2018
    Pike County Prosecutor Rob Junk says Wagner family remains the focus of the Rhoden/Gilley murder investigation
    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...investigation-stands-after-2-years/531686002/

    Spring 2018
    Wagner family members return from AK to Flying W Farms and later South Webster, OH. George Wagner IV returns later, arriving before the arrests

    Per AG DeWine press conference at time of arrests

    Approx. July 2018

    Grand Jury is seated in Pike County to hear evidence and testimony in the Rhoden/Gilley murder case
    https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/custody-fight-key-pike-county-case/aIKzRHo4MOwwNc4x9IvkyO/

    July 14, 2018
    Fredericka Wagner testifies before the Pike County Grand Jury regarding purchase of bullet-proof vests, among other evidence.
    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5782209-Motion-to-Dismiss-Fredericka-Wagner-Charges.html

    Wednesday, July 18, 2018
    Rita Jo Newcomb testifies before the Pike County Grand Jury, later charged with perjury and obstructing justice
    https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...ecutions/PikeCountyAdditionalIndictments.aspx

    Tuesday, July 24, 2018
    Fredericka Wagner testifies before the Pike County Grand Jury, later charged with perjury and obstructing justice

    https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...ecutions/PikeCountyAdditionalIndictments.aspx

    Wednesday, September 19, 2018
    Unredacted preliminary autopsy reports of Rhoden/Gilley victims released for viewing by news media. Complete final autopsy reports remain heavily redacted

    https://www.wcpo.com/news/state/sta...reporters-to-inspect-slain-family-s-autopsies


    Thursday, October 11, 2018
    Registered mail to George Wagner IV pertaining to custody agreement delivered to him at South Webster, OH
    https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...amily-arrested-43.421692/page-5#post-14792043

    Tuesday, October 31, 2018
    Investigators gathered the final piece of evidence – a silencer
    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/ne...alks-investigation-and-whats-next/2012179002/

    BCI search of well at 260 Peterson Rd – retrieved silencer
    Jake Wagner Supplemental Discovery Evidence List Jan 17, 2019

    Wednesday, November 7, 2018
    Lab experts completed examination of the silencer
    Ibid.

    Monday, November 12, 2018
    Grand Jury hands down murder charges against 4 Wagner family members and forgery, obstruction of justice and other charges against Rita Jo Newcomb and Fredericka Wagner
    Ibid.

    Tuesday, November 13, 2018
    Indictments filed, bringing charges against:
    George Wagner III, Angela Jo Wagner, George Wagner IV, Edward "Jake" Wagner, Fredericka Wagner and Rita Jo Newcomb. Arrests of all were made the same day
    https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...cial-Prosecutions/PikeCountyMurderIndictments

    https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov...ecutions/PikeCountyAdditionalIndictments.aspx

    Indictments allege George Wagner III, George Wagner IV, Angela Wagner, Jake Wagner and Fredericka Wagner plotted revenge against Ohio AG Mike DeWine and Pike County Sheriff Charles Reader

    https://www.chillicothegazette.com/...-bond-made-rhoden-family-massacre/2010483002/

    Wednesday, November 14, 2018
    AG DeWine says custody battle was at the center of the Rhoden/Gilley murders
    https://www.wlwt.com/article/6-arre...-killing-of-8-in-pike-county-ag-says/25055118

    George Wagner III waives extradition from KY, where he was arrested
    https://www.nbc4i.com/news/local-ne...-billy-wagner-waives-extradition-1/1596958670

    November 15 - December 5, 2018
    All suspects indicted in connection with Rhoden/Gilley murders arraigned on charges and plead not guilty
    https://www.tdn-net.com/top-stories/53228/last-rhoden-murder-suspect-arraigned

    Link to Pike County Clerk of Courts/Case Dockets
    For information about charges, hearing schedules, docket, etc.
    https://www.pikecountycpcourt.org/e...3slFUypQdLsM-OrQTOL3MTawuVIJicCV6NlLEK2J3s3aQ
     
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    As the Piketon Massacre podcast has apparently been discussed previously and contains interviews with some of the major case players, it is being approved.

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    Heads up. The Billy Wagner Discovery 1-17-2019 is the one his attorneys claim they don't have. PLEASE go to Page 2 of this thread, then Media and Timeline, Page 16, then scroll down to post by OhioBlues entitled "BW Discovery 1-17-2019," AND YOU WILL SEE the entire Discovery filed this date CONTAINS TWO DIFFERENT DISCOVERY DOCUMENTS. It's not rocket science. And there is a journal entry, as this was BW'S first Discovery. Is this the one they so "conviently" lost? LOL

    It goes along with this article:

    Billy Wagner's defense team waits for evidence in Rhoden case
     
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    Yes, I'll be shortening this up a bit....

    Monday, August 31st:

    *Motion & Bond Review Hearing (@ 1:30pm ET) - OH - Pike County 8 people dead: Christopher Rhoden, Sr. (40), his ex-wife, Dana Manley Rhoden (37), their three children, Clarence "Frankie" Rhoden (20), Christopher Jr. (16), Hanna Mae (19); Frankie's fiancée, Hannah Hazel Gilley (20), Christopher Rhoden Sr.'s brother, Kenneth Rhoden (44), & a cousin, Gary Rhoden (37). Hanna Rhoden's baby girl (5 days old), another baby (6 mos.) and a young child (3) were unharmed. (April 21-22, 2016, Pebbles) – for *George Washington Wagner IV (27/now 28) (Jakes’ bro) indicted (11/12/18), arrested (11/13/18) , charged (11/15/18) & arraigned (11/28/18) with 8 counts aggravated murder, (plus gun specifications on each), 1 count of 1st degree conspiracy, 4 counts of 1st degree aggravated burglary, 1 count of 5th degree unlawful possession of dangerous ordnance, 3 counts of 3rd degree evidence tampering, 1 count of 5th degree forgery, 1 count of 5th degree unauthorized use of computer or telecommunications, 1 count of 4th degree interception of wire, oral or electronic communication, 1 count of 5th degree obstructing justice, 1 count of 1st degree engaging in a pattern of corrupt activity. Plead not guilty. Held without bond. DA will seek the DP.
    Christopher Rhoden, Sr. (age 40): Nine shots (face, torso, extremities). He suffered was an apparent defensive wound to his right forearm that shattered bone. Also, at least one bullet went through a door before hitting him.
    Dana Rhoden (age 37): Five (head). Methodically shot four times around the right side of her head & a fifth time under her chin.
    Hannah Gilley (age 20): Five (head). Among the five bullet wounds to Gilley was one to her left eye.
    Christopher Rhoden, Jr. (age 16): Four (head). With 2 of the shots in the top of his head.
    Clarence “Frankie” Rhoden (age 20): Three (head). Two were “contact wounds” as indicated by soot from the gun on his skull.
    Gary Rhoden (age 37): Three “contact” wounds (head). Shot twice in the head & once in the face. With one of the shots, the reports indicate the gun was pressed against the side of his head, leaving a "muzzle stain."
    Hanna Mae Rhoden (19): Two (head).
    Kenneth Rhoden (age 44): One shot (thru right eye).
    All eight victims were shot with the gun barrel touching their skin or very, very close to it – just centimeters or inches away, the coroner determined.
    Trial was set to begin 9/4/19. Trial continuance granted on 7/24/19.

    Court hearings from 11/28/18 thru 5/19/20 reference post #607 here:
    OH Pike Co., 8 in Rhoden Family Murdered Over Custody Issue, 4 Members Wagner Family Arrested #55

    6/25/20: Motion #58: Defendant's motion for bond hearing & Motion #59: Defendant's motion for an order requiring the prosecution to provide a transcript of audio recordings it intends to introduce at trial both filed by attorney Richard M. Nash, Jr. Next pretrial hearing on 6/30/20.
    6/30/20 Update: Judge has received assurances AG withdrawing means their office will still provide full access to discovery evidence, etc. Junk says it won't be a problem. They are still getting what they need from AG's office & BCI. Judge grants the motion to allow AG to withdraw. Judge talking about discovery deadlines. Reviewing the amount of discovery given (4-5 terabytes) and June 22 everyone met and organized everything on a shared hard drive. Canepa is making sure all is on both drives. New deadline for discovery is 8/21 for the State to claim discovery is complete. And defense has any motions for pretrial re discovery must filed by 9/8. Motion filed by defense 42-E appropriation of funds for defense experts, court will take it up with defense today. Motions filed request for bond hearing (motion 58) & request for prosecution to provide transcript of recorded evidence (motion 59). Will set a date for oral hearing on those motions. Bond hearing on 8/31/20 @ 1:30pm.
    6/30/20: An envelope which contains 2 motions & 2 journal entries field under seal with the Judge of Court. Ordered that the Clerk of Courts shall hold the contents of envelope under seal. And envelope shall not be opened & the contents shall not be disclosed, except under order of this court or upon the order of a court of jurisdiction superior to this court.
    *Edward Jacob “Jake” Wagner (26/now 27) - Pretrial hearing on 9/21/20 & 9/22/20.
    *George Washington Wagner III (47/now 48)Evidentiary hearing on 9/8/20.
    *Angela Jo Wagner (48/now 49) – Pretrial Motions hearing 6/24/20. No update as of 8/31/20.
    *Rita Jo Newcomb (65/now 66) – Last Motions hearing on 12/2/19 entered a plea of guilty. Expected to testify in the trials. No update as of 8/26/20.
    *Fredericka Carol Wagner (76) – 6/26/19 Charges were dismissed without prejudice.

     
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    I am going crazy at the delays...But thanx for your replies and posting in this complicated case 9'ER....:)
     
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    Now I realize why I haven’t been on this thread much. Sigh.
     
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    Would love to have you... We need a verified attorney....

    4 death penalty trials coming up. Hope you can be here.

    Tricia the owner is COOL, I'm sure she would want you here.

    Go Trish ! Thanks Trish for everything! ;)
     
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    Pike County court hear site posted first 8-31-2020 Motion Bond Hearing
    And now it had 8-31-2020 Motion Hearing?
     
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    Hi @gitana1 ! Glad you dropped by. We would appreciate any help you can offer as these 4 cases get closer (hopefully) to trial. There's a lot of good summary information and a timeline on the first couple pages of each thread. Niner's summaries are also very good.

    There are currently 4 defendants - members of the Wagner family. The mother of one, Rita Newcomb, made a plea agreement late last year.

    Each of the 4 defendants are facing the DP and have a team of 2 to 3 DP certified public defenders representing them.

    The state has 3 prosecutors managing all the cases. The state AG had been overseeing the prosecution, as they had the investigation. With Mike DeWine's move from AG to Ohio governor, the next AG - Dave Yost - decided he no longer wanted to manage the prosecutions of the 4 Wagners. We suspect the reason was due to high cost, budget cuts. The AG Special Prosecutor, Angela Canepa, who managed the case from the start then resigned and moved over to the Pike County Prosecutor's Office, so she could continue to manage the prosecution. Gov. DeWine appointed an attorney from his staff to assist. Rob Junk, Pike County Prosecutor is the third.

    The defense attorneys have filed all the routine motions for DP cases, the judge has been very lenient with them. They continue to time many motion filings for maximum delay potential, JMO.

    State has submitted over 4 Terabytes of evidence. A lot of it is digital records of texts, social media posts, phone messages and evidence of hacking of victim's phones, SM accounts, etc. over a period from 1+ yrs before the murders to nearly 2 yrs after. Also ballistic evidence, DNA, security and game cam video, shoe prints in blood, blood in the Wagner family vehicle and evidence from a home made silencer found at the crime scene, with remaining parts found at the bottom of a well on the Wagner's property. Much more too numerous to mention and most we don't know as the governor is a former prosecutor and reveals little ahead of the trial.

    Big issues are the cost of trying 4 people for aggravated murder (and 19 other charges) and questions about whether Pike County can find enough jurors for the different trials. The state allocated a grant to Pike County to cover the costs, but the Ohio Leg is extremely frugal and the COVID 19 pandemic makes it harder.

    Please let us know if you need more links or have questions. We would really appreciate your help on this!
     
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    Good to see you here @gitana1 . Oh, oh, like me, you will find this case addictive. :eek:.
     
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    I like following @gitana1 when she's following a case. She does an excellent job!
     
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    Watch

    George Wagner Bond Hearing Live
     
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    Link to the WKRC article.

    George Wagner returns to court to try to get a bond set

    Seems ludicrous that GW4 is still trying to get bond, this late in the process, with so much evidence of his complicity and the extremely serious nature of his crimes. What judge in the US would grant bond to people accused of massacring 8 innocent people in their sleep over child custody? Domestic violence, writ large.

    Another link:

    WATCH LIVE: Eldest Wagner son charged in Pike County massacre to appear in court for motion hearing
     
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    Sound is on, prosecution team is in courtroom. Quite a few visitors on the prosecution side of the galley. Court has removed benches and placed individual chairs so people can social distance.

    Not seeing Ms. Geneva today. I hope she's doing ok.

    Special prosecutor Canepa and Junk keep smiling and chuckling. They're in a good mood. Hope that's a good sign.
     
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    Apparently something is funny...
     
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    Wonder what that deputy told the laid on the Rhodens and Gilley side????
     
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