ID - Doomsday Cult Victims - Joshua Vallow - Tylee Ryan - Tammy Daybell - Charles Vallow - *Arrests* #67

[Patch Tuesday]

Police searching for Rexburg children believed to be in serious danger | East Idaho News

I believe this is going to be a more complicated case than it looks on the surface. The children's mother (Lori Wallows) recently married a man (Chad Daybell) a few weeks after his wife died. It was presumed the late wife had died of natural causes but was exhumed recently and her death is now being investigated.
The new wife's husband was shot in a family argument earlier this year:

Chandler Police identify man who was shot dead during family fight

The husband and wife are not cooperating with police and have since vanished.

ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 MEDIA MAPS TIMELINE *NO DISCUSSION*

ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *MEDIA MAPS* NO DISCUSSION #2

ID - Joshua Vallow & Tylee Ryan, Rexburg, Sept 2019 - TIMELINE ONLY *NO DISCUSSION*

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[Sillybilly]

OFF TOPIC BUT IMPORTANT

There seems to be some confusion and concerns being expressed about Timeline posts not being linked in the Opening Posts.

Mods, Admins, Coordinators ... we've all had discussion about this over the last year and we just don't know why or when members started requesting WS staff to make all these additions and changes to the Opening Posts of new threads. We are a very limited staff and this is something members have historically done on their own that doesn't create any extra work for WS staff.

It is a very simple system that was set up years ago and has worked well in the past. We don't need to duplicate effort or reinvent the wheel here.

In each forum, i.e. "Located Persons Discussion", members will see at the top of the page, a sub forum called for example "Located Timeline and Media Links"

As you can see, any member can start an appropriately titled new timeline thread within such a forum and make or copy their Timeline posts and all subsequent revisions or updates into that thread. It can be titled something like Vallow & Daybell Media, Maps & Timeline (or just Vallow & Daybell Timeline thread if they want to keep it separate and apart from Media and Maps). If the thread gets titled Media, Maps and Timelines, all members have to do is use the search feature within that thread for the word Timeline. That's what these features are for.

When a member has created the Timeline thread, WS staff link it ONCE in the Opening Post and it never has to be changed again, regardless of whether it's 1 or 100 new discussion threads for any given case.

If there is any question about the above, please contact any Mod or Admin and we'll be glad to clarify.

If nobody else is going to do it for this case, when one of us gets time (not sure when that will be), we will set up the timeline thread for you in this case and copy all of Gardener1850's timeline posts into it. We will update the link in the Opening Post and it will never have to change after that.

Truly hope this clarifies.

 

[Sillybilly]

Hey everyone,

Mommacass has now been verified as a family member. We'll leave it to mommacass if they wish to share how they factor into the family relationships in this case.

As a verified member, mommacass does not have to provide links to the information they provide. You may ask mommacass questions but it is up to them whether they answer or not.

Please be respectful to them at all times and do not argue with them or badger them for information.

 

[CocoChanel]

MOD NOTE
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[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

Please review The Rules regarding copyright and paywalls.

Circumventing paywall/subscription articles is a violation of copyright law. IOW, if you're expected to pay for it, well ... you're expected to pay for it.

Please get back on track discussing the case itself. Thanks !!

 

[YaYa_521]

Continue the discussion here.

 

[watergirl62]

ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Charles Vallow, 62, Oct 2019 *Arrests* #66

Actually, he was also sitting in jail. CD was arrested June 9, 2020 the RW-SS interview is from October, 2020. However, Prosecutors have a case against Chad, but the case against Lori is stronger, Wood told Shiflet...

www.websleuths.com

Ahh, I see. Thanks for setting me straight on that, Tortoise.

 

[BeachSky]

Vallow-Daybell's attorneys contend death penalty is unconstitutional | Law | rexburgstandardjournal.com

Murder defendant Lori Vallow-Daybell’s attorneys filed a motion claiming the death penalty is unconstitutional



It’s kinda ironic how people who kill
are afraid of being killed.
MOO

 

[887sMtreme]

How, if at all, will the Moscow murder trial affect the trial we’re here for? I understand it will also be in Boise.

 

[Laughing]

Vallow-Daybell's attorneys contend death penalty is unconstitutional | Law | rexburgstandardjournal.com

Murder defendant Lori Vallow-Daybell’s attorneys filed a motion claiming the death penalty is unconstitutional



It’s kinda ironic how people who kill
are afraid of being killed.
MOO

Well said!

 

[longtimereader]

ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, Tylee Ryan, 16, Tammy Daybell, 49, Charles Vallow, 62, Oct 2019 *Arrests* #66

Actually, he was also sitting in jail. CD was arrested June 9, 2020 the RW-SS interview is from October, 2020. However, Prosecutors have a case against Chad, but the case against Lori is stronger, Wood told Shiflet...

www.websleuths.com

Ahh, I see. Thanks for setting me straight on that, Tortoise.

Yes, thanks. I was thinking that may have happened when she was in and he was out. I am not super clear on all of that.

 

[sassyblue]

How, if at all, will the Moscow murder trial affect the trial we’re here for? I understand it will also be in Boise.

The Moscow murders trial hasn't been moved to Boise. They just barely caught the guy so there is lots of drama to be seen in that case yet. I won't be surprised if that trial is moved to Boise eventually but that is a long way in the future at this point.

 

[watergirl62]

Interesting!

"Juicy" -LH

 

[Gardenista]

Interesting!

"Juicy" -LH

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Lori Vallow Daybell will not use her mental health as a defense during murder trial, attorney says - East Idaho News

ST. ANTHONY — Lori Vallow Daybell will not use a mental health defense during her trial this spring even though her lawyers say she is mentally ill. In court documents filed Tuesday, defense attorneys Jim Archibald and John Thomas noted Daybell’s mental health has been “evaluated and litigated”...

www.eastidahonews.com

 

[Gardenista]

Docs at the link

Justin Lum - Investigative Reporter
28m ·
Lori Vallow motions to have a meeting with Chad Daybell about strategy. Last time they spoke over the phone was on 7/26/22. Motion says Lori and Chad want to talk in person and on the phone about their options.
Plus, a notice of alibi. Vallow claims she was in her own apartment when her kids JJ Vallow & Tylee Ryan died in her late brother Alex Cox’s apartment. When Tammy Daybell died, LV says she was in Hawaii w/ her niece & friend.
Vallow is accused of first-degree murder in her children’s deaths and murder conspiracy in the death of Chad’s first wife Tammy.

Justin Lum - Investigative Reporter

Lori Vallow motions to have a meeting with Chad Daybell about strategy. Last time they spoke over the phone was on 7/26/22. Motion says Lori and Chad want to talk in person and on the phone about...

www.facebook.com

 

[Gardenista]

^^Document talks about settlement and mediation. Hmmm.

 

[pizzaman12]

Docs at the link

Justin Lum - Investigative Reporter
28m ·
Lori Vallow motions to have a meeting with Chad Daybell about strategy. Last time they spoke over the phone was on 7/26/22. Motion says Lori and Chad want to talk in person and on the phone about their options.
Plus, a notice of alibi. Vallow claims she was in her own apartment when her kids JJ Vallow & Tylee Ryan died in her late brother Alex Cox’s apartment. When Tammy Daybell died, LV says she was in Hawaii w/ her niece & friend.
Vallow is accused of first-degree murder in her children’s deaths and murder conspiracy in the death of Chad’s first wife Tammy.

Justin Lum - Investigative Reporter

Lori Vallow motions to have a meeting with Chad Daybell about strategy. Last time they spoke over the phone was on 7/26/22. Motion says Lori and Chad want to talk in person and on the phone about...

www.facebook.com

Whelp. Here we go.

On a side note, why did they add "Doomsday Cult Victims" to the title?

 

[Tortoise]

Docs at the link

Justin Lum - Investigative Reporter
28m ·
Lori Vallow motions to have a meeting with Chad Daybell about strategy. Last time they spoke over the phone was on 7/26/22. Motion says Lori and Chad want to talk in person and on the phone about their options.
Plus, a notice of alibi. Vallow claims she was in her own apartment when her kids JJ Vallow & Tylee Ryan died in her late brother Alex Cox’s apartment. When Tammy Daybell died, LV says she was in Hawaii w/ her niece & friend.
Vallow is accused of first-degree murder in her children’s deaths and murder conspiracy in the death of Chad’s first wife Tammy.

Justin Lum - Investigative Reporter

Lori Vallow motions to have a meeting with Chad Daybell about strategy. Last time they spoke over the phone was on 7/26/22. Motion says Lori and Chad want to talk in person and on the phone about...

www.facebook.com

I'm not sure how to copy those documents over here. That says they will be allowed to talk in the presence of their attorneys and prosecutors, but the content of their conversations won't be used as evidence. I've never heard anything like it before.

Unless she's going to plead guilty of course. Is that what it means by "deemed as for settlement purposes only"?

I need to get my head round this alibi. Tylee was killed before MG went up to visit.

 

[Gardenista]

Audrey Barattiero is talked about in this video starting at about 1hr 43min

 

[Tortoise]

Audrey Barattiero is talked about in this video starting at about 1hr 43min

Is she mentioned in the new docs?